Are Internet Cafes still a Good Business?

I think cafes will go down on their ‘internet’ side of business because internet and computers here in the Philippines are getting cheaper and cheaper, unless you are located near a school, sobrang patok for research, typing and printing, lalo na yung mahileg sa cramming.

I guess there are still growth in the gaming side because I think gamers prefer group playing than playing solo.

patok yung 168 and its sister company ihook. i think it’s because of gaming and not internet. abe nagdodota pa rin kami, pero ngayon sa labas na para pwedeng mag-ingay kahit 40 pesos per hour.

mas magaling pang magblog na lang tungkol sa internet cafe kesa magtayo ng internet cafe, mas malakas ang kita, di ba? hehehe.

on a serious note, plano ko rin yan dati sa barangay namin sa batangas. malapit sa school. kaso, may nauna sa akin, and i don’t want to compete with his price. malulugi lang ako.

i agree with Kuya Kevin
It’s about location but as of the moment, the busiest places are also the most hard-fought (too many competitors).

Second criterion for success would be the quality of experience (Gaming Cafes).

Third would be “other services.” I have a friend who only has 8 units but he has 10 printers and offers the sought after “Piso Print” service. His printing earnings far exceeds the PC rentals.

I used to have an internet cafe but gave it up three years ago. Now I hear rentals are at P15/hour ? Don’t see how one can make money at that rate, you have to find ways to supplement it. Rentals alone won’t cut it…

I would say yes! But not in Metro Manila, It will be a great business if you locate it the province where only few can afford DSL connection at home.

I’m a former net cafe owner and so so so proud quitting the business. It’s so so so so so so horrible experience for me caused by lagggggggggy dsl business plan, stiffffff competition, unfairrrrrrrr competition (for using counterfeit softwares). Blogging is farrrrrrrrrrrrr away better than having a computer shop. :)

Hmmm good idea there yuga! and along with it is a coffee and snack bar. :)

Sa area namin d2 sa bulacan, parang mushroom na nagsusulputan ang internet cafe business, gaya-gaya para ding mineral water business bawat kanto may kalaban. Kaya ang rate P15 per hour na lang, at ang iba ay P10 cguro iba gamit ng jumber na lang para makatipid sa electricity which is risky pag nahuli ka ng Meralco! Ang kuryente parang na ring ginto eh sa mahal!

Tapos consider mo pa ang municipal ordinance na bawal magpapasok ng estudyante between 7:00 am to 4:00 pm, goodness ano pa kikitain
jan! Bawat bata hingi ng bonus time eh ano pa sa Meralco na lang lahat punta ng kita!

In short, cut-throat competition talaga! Kailangan mahaba pisi mo to compete with others!

saturated business in the metro
maybe if you put up one in the province, i think that would be doable. :D

I would like to add a factor to consider in putting up this business, that is employee to manage the repairs and customers.

If you’ll be doing it all by yourself, it’s really more a self-employment than a business.

If you can find a decent job, might as well be employed.

How much do cafes spend for electricity when they have 10PCs? what about 20 or 30?

Hi guys meron kasi akong gustong place dito sa amin, meron 3 schools na malapit and meron din 2 cafe’s na competensya pero as a gamers nakikita kong sobrang naasar yong mga players niya kasi sobrang LAG at yong Dota na nga lang na didisconnect pa.. so gusto ko sanang magtayo ng cafe dito yong medyo malakas na computer para lumipat yong mga student.. pero di ako makagawa ng business proposal kasi di ko alam kong paano gawin at saan magsisimula.. kong meron makakatulong sa akin please send me an email artnorman_g****@****.***

Thank you

By the way i’m not more on gamers but rather internet users. Sa internet kc pag nag research may kasamang printing and more. Kaunti lang din games ko kasi nagiging magulo and most of my dedicated customers eh gusto sounds lang.. ayaw ng maingay. Tsaka madaling masira ang keyboard and mouse sa mga gamers hihihihihi(but not all).

Depende siguro sa lugar na pagtatayuan mo, kung saturated na sa area nyo o marami ng internet cafes sa lugar nyo, di humanap ka ng iba lugar na wala pang gaanong competitors!

Well, kung sayo ang place at hindi ka na uupa ng monthly rental pwede yon kahit maraming competitors, daanin mo na lang sa promo! Nasa strategy mo na lang yon on how to beat your competitors!

Whether it’s good or not depends on your location and your presentation. Besides that, I doubt that even a quarter (perhaps a lot less) of the Filipino population can afford the fees for internet services – let alone a computer (sorry, don’t have the proper percentages, and I don’t have the resources to do a countrywide poll.. but a good guess would be 10%… hehehe).

The cheapest BRAND NEW PC I can get which is compatible with most current popular MMOGs would cost around 8 – 9 thousand pesos – that’s a system with an AMD Sempron and a 780G or 690G motherboard. That’s a lot of money.

The CHEAPEST I can get is probably an old PII or PII for about 2 thousand, and a monitor might be around 1 to 2 thousand – if you know where to look – the problem with this is the warranty; and these systems just won’t cut it – even for Warcraft III with all the eye candy set to the lowest.

Besides that, most used computers have problems and no warranty – you’ll end up spending more on repairs or buying more old ones susceptible to damage, eventually spending more than you would had you bought a brand new one. And there’s the electric bill…

Anyway… electricity… could anyone here please post electricity bills for your net cafes? Number of PCs, monthly electricity charges, hours per month. I’d like to get an idea of approximately how much I’d be spending on that as I’m planning on putting up one in my little town.

X.A., Thanks for an informative comment, with numbers. Interesting and I wish you well.

I just came back from a 4 day road trip up north with my son who is visiting from the states. We used cafe’s at leaast once a day. Major thing I observed as a business man is, most cafes make it too hard on themselves. Way too much labor for a simple task. Sign this, fill up that, etc. Labor costs the owner even if it is his own, and slows down the amount of time a customer is online and thus making the operator money.

There is good cafe management software out there, currently way too much paper and time being used.

I must say though, from personal observation, this is still for sure a viable business if you run it as a business.

Big opportunity I see being missed is monetizing things like advertising and membership deals to the users. Many owners/shop attendants barely acknowledge the presence of customers instead of talking to them, finding out their needs and making them feel welcome … and signing them up to a free monthly newsletter … you are promoting your shop with a monthly newsletter, aren’t you?

Last tip … have change! It is a business’s responsibility to make change for the customer, period. You offera service for a fee, part of the cost of doing business is to be able to make change … fact of life. Making the customer feel guilty for not having change is bad business. It’s like paying your Meralco bill … not always a happy occasion but a necessity for ongoing sales.

@ Yuga and in particular your great response to marghil and orgl.

The biggest thing I see standing in anybody’s idea so many people seem to have that a ‘computer shop’ only does this thing or that thing. Time (money) slips away while people don’t come in the shop to do what the owner thinks they should be doing … instead, the owner could be finding things they want to do.

How many ‘stories’ fit for a blog post happen everyday, right as people are using the cafe? It doesn’t cost a centavo more to write about them … especially if business is slow anyway.

on my opinion, internet cafe business is a dying business nowadays :(

for WoW, i think you can use just one copy and distribute it on the computers. it’s the player’s responsibility anyway to have an account.

I’m a shop owner for almost 8 years, i started with just 2 pc, and now it’s 31 units, so I may say magandang negosyo, cguro noon, pero ngayon na sunod-sunod ang nagtayo sa lugar namin, (by the way, malayo ako sa school, purely residential area) ngayon ang hirap na, half of my PC eh hindi na nauupuan sa maghapon, and with new shops near my area and lower rates like P10/hr, now i don’t know kung paano na!

My take on this is to make sure you use highly efficient rigs that are highly scalable. I would suggest going with the following set up:

AMD Athlon 4850e (45W versus 65W most dual core processors consume)
AMD 780G Chipset motherboard (Power efficient chipset with powerful IGP capable of running locally populaar games)
1x2GB 800mhz DDR2 RAM
80GB 7200 RPM HDD
CD-ROM ODD (leave the DVD-RW in your service unit so you can charge customers to burn CD’s/DVD’s)
15 – 17″ LCD with no more than 1280×800 resolution (Consumes significantly less power than CRT monitors and attracts more customers)
Windows Vista Basic

You’re probably asking why use Vista when it’s a resource hog. Well, Vista allows you to scale your rig up by simply adding an ATI 3450/3470 Graphics card to take advantage of AMD’s Hybrid Crossfire technology when locally popular games start requiring extra power, also Vista Basic isn’t as much a resource hog as Vista Premium and the 2GB 800mhz RAM should be more than enough to sustain it, and you can always add another 1 or 2GB to further improve performance (note: 32 Bit Vista may not be able to completely utilize 4 GB worth of RAM).

Now, the best part about this set up is that it consumes significantly less energy than most computers you’ll see currently being used by alot of internet cafes (less ongoing overhead expense) and at the same time provides better gaming and surfing experience, attracting more customers (more revenue).

What do you think guys?

ako din i’m planning to start a internet business next month but after reading this im having a doubt now..kakaasar hirap naman ang mahal mag start ng business pero hirap kumita now a day..estimate cost ko to start a business is 150k pesos..which is a mabigat na sa bulsa ko para sa isang katulad ko..tama nga kayo nagigin mura na ang pc ngyn,,at nagkakaron na ng magndang deals sa internet connection,, pwede pa cguro ako magstart pero cguro pabagsak palang ang internet business..pwede pa rin ngyn im sure pwede pa rin magstart and kikita ka prin pero papunta ka kc ang pilipinas sa pagiging more technology needs.. tignan mo ang cellphone..dati panay telephono ang malakas na kita ng mga big company pero dahil sa cellphone at naging sobrang mura na cellphone halos wala ng nagamit ngyn ng telephono db? kaaasar nmn..almost too late na yata para magtayo…hay pano kya ako yayaman nito,,guys/girls ano opinion nio sa LOTtO franchise? magkano kaya kita nun,,konti lng kc ang budget ko eh i cant afford a resturant..

hi, sa mga gustong magkaroon ng cafe shop.hinde basta basta ang internet cafe…kailan may dicarte ka at marunung ka mag troubleshoot lalo na sa networking..may cafe shop ako dito sa zamboanga city para ako nakaukay ng kinto simula 10am to 3am no vacant palagi pc ko..meroon ako assistant 10am to 8pm and duty niya.ako nag babantay ng 8pm to 3am ..minsan sakit sa ulo hinde maiwasan mga errors at mga ibang troubles.nagaral ako sa sti basic troubleshooting para de na ako maghire ng technician,minsan sakit sa ulo amg mga technician.mahirap lng sa amin dito holdapan.discarte lng mga bro.

to no.56 Bianca rae.
reg on power comsumption.
i suggest masyado mataas ang expense mo sa power sa 4 wallfan Plus 2h.p aircon. &sa 1 heavy duty copier (around 1000 watts)i have 13units. 2 wall fan. dpa me aabot ng 9K a mo. sa 1000 watts equivalent nyan more than 20units lcd only. meaning mataasang gastos mo dyan sa copier. if d nmanganun ka klangan & PROFIT ibigay mo nlang sa iba yan,,, PM mo nlang me sa email ko if my question ka,, Help kita, God Ble$$! kaya mo yan,

Hi guyz, ask ko lng f ok nb pang icafe gamings itong specs ko: 2.4ghz athlon 64bit 1620, ecs motherboard with 256mb chipset, 80G sata hdd 7200 rpm, 1G memory. Tsaka ano b ung 256 mb chipset? Built in nb ang vcard nito? Guyz f not enough ang specs ko ask ko nrn f ano mas mbilis. Tanx

I have had an IC for 10 months, the rate is 15/hour with incentive 5 hour block time at night of 10 pesos. This is the going local rate and it is not a good business at that rate. I saw in Cebu that competition had driven the rate down to 7 pesos in a few cafés. Cafés fold regularly.
Some of the advice offered here is quite good.
Location, location, location are the three primary criteria for a profitable cafe.
Finding a good, competent, and honest technician is almost impossible so you better be your own techie.
Attendants tend to be thieves so keep tight control.
There is much trouble with the ISPs not providing reliable service or providing the speeds you are paying for.
Damage from gamers and theft are also problems.
Air conditioning is expensive.
Landlords will ask for a 10% increase annually which will put you right out of business so never sign such a lease contract. Costs go up while rates remain stable or decline
I had a previous café that folded because of the rent increases. It is now restarting in a new location. The manager is an excellent business woman
It is a tough business……………….

Good location, competent and honest internet cafe staff and ample back-ups for hardware and DSL connection are “must haves” to ensure the viability of internet cafe businesses. I operated a pizza parlor-game/internet cafe from 1999 and closed shop sometime in 2006 — due to very stiff price cuts from nearby start-up cafes and the mushrooming of cafes competing for a limited target market.

Now, I am thinking about re-opening but in a different location but without the gaming component since it would not jibe anymore with the tutorial/study center my family wants to develop in the same site.

Any experience to share about the financial viability of operating purely for internet research, online education and encoding?

in my opinion and experience. having a net cafe with 20 units is still profitable lalo na pag nalagay mo sa exact spot like mine is. 15 / hr but if want to be a member u can avail a 12/hr and per minute basis when u log in. kc bugyan ko sila ng username and pass to log in anytime they want to play. minimum purchase of 120 php though (10hrs)and especially if the units ur have rocks . i mean literally rocks. mga competition ko d2 are amd athlon lang at pentium 4… guess what mine is.. 6 quad core, 10 amd 64×2 5200+ and 4 core 2 duo all with 8500gr ddr2 vc @ 2Gb 800mhz. 160Gb nga lang memo and 15-17′ lcd monitors. so all my clients can play dota, friendster, bot ragna/sro/cabal, autoclick ran and conquer and my gay clients can edit modify pics burn/rewrite cds while listening to mp3s/mp4s all at the same time and they love it kc di nag hahang pc. and they come every day because of this. and i troubleshoot my own pcs. oo nga pala, di nag lang aircondition shop ko kaya I bought some cpu fans like cyth for the quads kc madali lang mag overheat cpu with the stock fans kc di aircon shop ko. 20 pcs still manage to get around 1.3k the least to 3k a day 9am-12mn.
( licsended po yung OS ko ah 32bit Wxp. di pa ako nag upgrade vista, loko2x kc vista, dami pro conflict or error)

mr. ned, talaga lahat licensed ang OS ng 20 PCs? baka ireport kita sa Microsoft Philippines!hehe!

kilala kita alam ko ang location ng shop mo! hehe!
dare me!

d2 samin kahit hindi tabing school astig ang kitaan 150 pc 3rd flor puno araw araw 40pesos 3 hrs
dinadayo kahit malalayong lugar pa at hindi ka pa
maiinis sa unit na gagamitin mo… bago lang to
pero pumatok pa din kahit may katabing com shop
nag lipatan lahat ng suki nila dahil sa napaka
mahal na singil…

omg i want to start this biz [ net cafe ], nut now i am tottaly confuzed. anyway thanks for all of you guyz. your comment helps a lot

Hi guys, I’m a manager of an internet cafe and bago lang ito… ngaung 2009 ko lang sya open ,, my dad and I are partners for this business and I hope mag click sya d2 sa meycauayan, bulacan.. although alam ko na mdami competitors I still believe na magiging successful ang business namin…

I have 12 pc’s and 1 server so mkakapag 5v5 ang mga gamers and may mkakapg surf pa ng net like the ladies na mahilig mag friendster, etc etc…

dota, cabal, counter-strike ang madalas na nilalaro sa area namin and some other online games… Ready for Crysis warhead / assassin’s creed / starcraft 2/ red alert 3 and GTA 4 …

wala din me rentals kasi sa hauz namin itinayo ung business. Actually ung old hauz namin kasi lumipat na kami, mga 2 houses away lang. para tipid na din sa rental..
ang balak kong rent fee ko is 15/hr sa una then mag raise ako ng 20 /hr kapag may mga regular customers na ko…
and syempre may membership din ung cafe ko at magppapromo ako sa mga members…

mejo high-end na din kasi mga kinuha ko na pc’s and server ko para makapag multi-task…

eto nga pala specs ng computers built for gaming ang MS applications..

sa WORKSTATIONS:

Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0 ghz
Gigabyte p35 Motherboard
2GB DDR2 RAM pc800
1GB Geforce 9500GT 128bit, DDR2
500w Hec raptor PSU
160GB HDD SATA
19″ LCD wide Viewsonic monitor
w/ a4tech KB
logitech optical mouse
a4tech headset
all w/ webcams

sa Server:

Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 ghz w/ G-Power 2 Cooler
Gigabyte p35 Motherboard
2GB DDR2 RAM pc800
1GB Geforce 9500GT 128bit, DDR2
500w Hec Raptor PSU
500 GB HDD SATA
22″ Viewsonic monitor
5.1 altec lansing speaker
a4tech KB
logitech optical mouse
webcam
internal DVD Super multi drive (lightscribe)
internal memory card reader 15 in 1

…my capital is around 400thou sa units and 10thousand sa renovations ng place..ksama na tables and chairs..

I plan to have an aircon , mga 1.5 HP lang siguro or 1HP ..para mkatipid sa power .. actually ang habol ko lang naman is maging conducive ang place.. di naman need ng sobrang lamig dba?

ROI: maximum of 2yrs…

hingi ako mga opinion / idea and pieces of information sa inyo guys.. any reactions? comments? thanx in advance…

sana maging successful lahat ng business ntin … i’ll pray for it …

@ jake .. short cut ko na ung need mo para makapag open ka…

1. BUSINESS PERMIT:
a. barangay clearance
b. mayor’s permit
c. NBI

2. INTERNET CONNECTION (DSL)
3. COMPUTERS / COMP TECH
4. BUDGET
5. TAGABANTAY (di mo kakayanin yan 24/7 haha!)
6. PRAYERS !!

gudluck….

-MoxSapphire

i will try this business because it is east to start with. a place, computers, and there you go you have urself a business.

Hi,

I just opened a computer shop with a partner last August. So far, it is a good business. It will really be the location, the service, and your business strategy on how to beat the competition.

In the area where we opened our shop, it is near a school and most of the residents are University students. We started with 6 pcs (+1 server) last August and now we have 10 pcs (+1 server). The money we used to buy the new pcs came from the earnings of the internet shop.

I would agree with the previous comments that there are challenges in this business so you must have a good business strategy and you must be willing to experiment with your market. And ofcourse, like what I always say to our staff, it is our service and the way we deal with these people that will create the big difference.

I believe we have managed to make our “suki” feel that they are already part of a family. That they have Ate’s and Kuya’s who even remind them to finish their assignments first before playing. That the parents feel that we are their partners. Sometimes, we even ask them until what time we can admit their kids.

On the other hand, our shop is for additional income only. My partner and I still work and we closely manage the shop. Ofcourse, our staff there is someone we could really trust with money.

We are planning on setting-up another internet shop in the province. The hourly rates are much higher and there are still much fewer shops.

Last, I have a question re the membership thing? How do you do it? Do you give like a card or something? I’m planning of trying this out. Please give me your suggestions.

Thanks much!

LOCATION+EXCELLENT SERVICE+BUSINESS STRATEGY is the most important s lahat, pro dpat affordable ung rental rate(P30=2hrs)..dpat mganda ung performance ng unit for competition..
im also an cafe owner at the same time technician d2 s subd nmin s palawan, kaso specialize ko ay more on gaming, so i started a 6units+1server last november and i make sure n ung units ko ay built for gaming coz un ang target kong cus2mers.
during 1st weeks mdyo knti lng ang cus2mers pro s klaunan many are keep coming back dahil sbi nla mas way better ung overall performance ng units ko kc competitors q..be aware of laggy connection kc un ang pnkahate ng mga cus2mers, if balak u mg-open ng 20units gawin u 12units=gaming at 8units=multitasking and get a dual ISP para 1 for gaming & 1 for the other set pra maminimize u ang connection traffic…

GL^^

@jojo

u should invest more on video card, u must hav a discrete GPU not build-in…

suggested specs:

CPU: minimum: athlon/p4 2.2ghz up
recommended: any dualcores amd/intel

GPU: recommended: gforce8600gt up, gforce9500gt up (latest ATi/nVidia GPU price range at P2,500~3,500) can be a decent performer..

RAM: DDR2 1GB up

HDD: 80GB up

Display: 16″ LCD for less power consumption/less eye-stress than CRT..

there are many internet cafe all over the philippines. but if you plan to have one, do it! its risky, i can tell you. thats what happened to me. after 2 to 3 months from operation, my shop started to have more clients. some also reserve now a days. so i have to add more units of computers to meet up with my clients.. it would cost you 15 pesos per hour to use the internet in my place. but the trick is; being honest and friendly to everybody. a fast broadband network. and of course, giving them delicious MENU. thats why people come often here at my place.. some say everybody goes here often would be helthier.. gud business guy!

at sa sipag at tyaga meron na rin akong mga napundar…GOD IS GOOD!!

taga san ka jojit? I also started year 2000, and now I have 27 units, I’m more in rentals, printing, repair, sales etc. anyways I’m just curious mukang kasing matao dyan sa inyo dahil marami na kayo dyang comp shop 40 wow..

kuya NED i like your openion…pano mo un gnawa?pd magpaturo pls?

bago lang ako sa biz na ito…kunti lang PC ko kasi gusto ko munang obserbahan kung ok.

Good luck to us all…
God bless!

I’m gonna put it this way: no matter how good and numerous your equipment is, even if it’s the very best, you cannot succeed in this business without some experience and expertise with computers, and a total understanding on how such a business venture like this works.

hi guyz need q po help kc po maxado na mahina internet cafe ko, i have only 6 pc at kumikita aq ng 15k monthly ang gamit ko lang kcng connection is smart bro dhil wlang line ng dsl sa lugar namin.advice naman po kung anu pang pwedeng gawin para mpbilis connection ko??maraming salamat po..

IMO, this is still a very profitable business. I recently opened my own 30 unit internet cafe and it has certainly been a gold mine for me.

It really is all about location, location, location.

Within the first 5 mths i have already earned almost half of my investment. I think the secret to having a great profit is to first establish a customer base. How would you do that? Talk to them, listen to what they want but never ever sacrifice your income just to make them happy.

If any of you have plans to opening up a cafe, go! It is not a failing industry if you just know how to do it right.

to jojit or ned or to everyone else.
at this moment..my copy center ako sa tabi ng tatlong schools…sobrang okay naman yung kita..sa katunayan after 6 months..im ready to establish an internet cafe..
sa ngayon may nakita na akong space at under negotiation na ako wether to rent or to buy…5000 to rent monthly or to buy about 200,000 need renovation suitable for internet cafe..kasi d cya dati cafe..pero ok lng naman.ung lot is for rent for about 1000 a month..
ang gusto ko kasi eh malapit sa school ung cafe..pero wala akong makitang magandang space maliliit lng kasi ang mga stores dito malapit sa school…mostly ung mga internet nasa town center..dun ko nakita ung space na 5000 ung rent..
ano advice nyo..ok kaya itong space na ito sa town center where the cafes mostly are??

i dont know hw to troubleshoot pc..why i sometimnes encounter ‘DISK BOOT FAILURE,INSERT THE DISK AND PRESS ENTER” .. Sabi ng techncian unplug and plug lng daw ung cable sa hard disk..im afraid bka masira although warranty pa ang cpu.. pls help me… i want to learn how to troubleshoot kya lng pano? . tnx in advance sa mga mbabait…

JOJIT,o kung cnong may alam, ano ang LAYOUTING? paano? sa mga services offered mo kc may nakalagay layouting…tnx kung cno man ang makasagot..

kung balak nyo magtayo dapat 1st consideration is the place…near the school… good for gamers and research..meron akong 10 units at 1 server at 1 extra para s printing documents and pictures..medyo mahina nga lang kapag vacation..promo lang kailangan..meron din competitors..pero dapat lagi ikaw 1 step ahead sa kalaban..lahat ng binili ko ay flat screen..maganda na..matipid pa sa power…mas okey ang kita sa printing…. P15 lang per hour ako..ung mga kalaban ko dati P20..nag-promo ako ng P15.naglipatan sa akin ang mga customers nila… ung isa nagsara na kasi nalugi yata..tapos kunng kya mo namang magbantay..ikaw na magbantay..hirap magtiwala kasi… proven ko na ..hirap humanap ng mapagkakatiwalaan sa ngaun… mas maganda babae ang kukuhain mong bantay..kung lalaki kasi..sasabayan nyan ng laro ..tapos di mo alam me pinalalaro na cya frend nya na me 3 pa la cyang character sa games..maliiit lang ung place ko..balak ko mag-expand..kung meron ka 6 units..good start..kaya lang by group kasi ang games kaya much better kung 10 units…this year balak ko ihiwalay ang gamers sa chatters… maingay kasi ang games kasi d maiwasan ma-excite ng mga gamers minsan naghihiyawan tapos nagtutuksuhan..okey pa naman ang kita..ang kinakatakutan ko lang ang eh ang mga ordinance kasi kahit me pasok wala din customers kasi bawal magpalaro during class hours..kya mas maganda kung lagi me vacant o freetime ung kids…lagi me absent at late na teachers ..maganda yan…he..he… balak ko rin maglagay ng xerox..kya lang pinag-aaralan ko pa kung powder o ung liquid..kasi ung katapat ko liquid ang gnagamit malakas naman ang kita kya lang laging sira..ang mga tao kc d2 sa amin s quezon..gusto mura talaga…kahit saan naman cguro… dapat komportable din ang place…aircon dapat..o kya well-ventilated man lang..malakas s kuryente ang aircon… nagbabayad me ng at least P10k a month… me isa pa akong wallfan…kung komnti nagamit …exhaust fan at wallfan lang gamit me… dapat lagi malinis at mabango ang shop… pinagabbawalan ko ang food inside lalo na ung me mga me amoy… kahit ung mga kids na hindi pa naliligo..di ko muna pinapapasok…shower muna…he…he.. ung server ko ay wireless kc laptop ang gamit ko…kya me libre akong wi-fi d2… okey naman ang kita…hope this helps..God bless…. email lang sa akin if u need help…..elmercp****@****.***

Lahat ng negosyo ang pag asensyo naka depende yan sa may ari 1 year na rin ako sa internet business maganda pa rin kita. U think some innovtion and additional services like me i open a restaurant inside my cafe i devided in to 2 rooms 1computer room and 2the resto. My place is ideal more meetings, teleconferencing, surfing and research. Di ako masyado sa games ang ingay kasi.I offer also rush ID, photocopy, encoding and printing.

Hi to All,
Will be opening internet cafe soon. I already have my place renovated. Next thing is, I need to have the computer tables fabricated. I will have it done by a carpenter. Anong klaseng plywood ba kailangan? Anybody who can give the standard specifications for the table, like the height of the keyboard and monitor plus the counter top for the CPU and the depth of the box for monitor. I want the CPU above, so it will not accumulate heat kung nasa ilalim. I also intend to use LCD monitors so I think hindi masyado malalim kailangan. Thanks in advance for help.

I shall take the example of X.A. kahit walang games kikita pa rin. Imagine PIII lang ang gamit niya and yet kumikita siya ng maganda. Me too will going to set up an internet cafe na walang games.

Hello everyone!

To the cafe owners:

What is the best antivirus software to install in the internet cafe? I have my own cafe now with 35 pc’s.

Thanks!

Click ang computer shop! KUNG?

Unang una sa lahat…
Important: Maganda ang pwesto
>>Like near school… GAMING/PRINTING/INTERNET click k!

Marunong kang mag gawa ng PC both software/hardware
> tipid k sa technician

Mabilis ang internet mo!
>> pra D MAGRREKLAMO CUSTOMER MO! LALO N UNG Nag chachat, at ONLINE GAMERS…

Updated games mo!
>> lalo n online games… PATCHED NG PATCHED

Maganda specs ng computer mo!
>para lahat ng graphics ng game pede.

May discount promo ka!
>student discount/etc.

Friendly ka!
> babalik sau khit minsan may prob computer mo!
PERO open cila sa problem…

May Internet cafe ako ngayon. ok lang nman ang kta. 10 units lang ako pero goods talaga. may sarili akong building. techie dn ako kaya hnd na ako kumukuha ng technician. dagdag gastos lang yan. kuryente tska Bill sa connection na lang ang pinagiipunan ko. 75 thou monthly ko, 15 thou ang makakaltas pagdating ng katapusan ng buwan!hahaha..

nakabili na nga ako ng motor. so sa lahat ng nagsasabi na patay na ang Internet business, mali kayo. baka meron dn kayo dati mismanaged lang. baka panay palibre sa mga tropa. yan ang wag na wag nu gawin. lalaki ulo ng mga nyan!

Meron akong Internet cafe now, 2 months na sya,. 6 unit + 1 Server pro kulang mraming pmupunta dto shop ko sa games grupo grupo sila lalo na ung DOTA 5 vs 5 daw ang labanan. mrame ngang ngsasabi skin na extend ko na shop ko gwin 10 unit daw pro un lang wla pa ako pondo. mganda mg tayo ka ng internet cafe pag lam mo need ng costumer mo? request sla ng Games na gsto nla dpat mron ka nun.. ok lang nman Income dis past months nkakaipon nman khit papaano un lang mrame ka kakompitensya sa business na to prang mushroom na ngsusulputan.

ako newbies pa dto na business pro diskarte ang kailangan pra maka survive sa negosyo na hilig mo..

Hello,

I’m Kelly. I just started a internet cafe business in Hong Kong. I have 21 computers there. And also members who recently joined my internet club. But I am just too affraid that I might have to put my own pocket money for to pay the rent because the rent cost is very high like HK$6000 and it’s been only few days like 10 days already and we are been earning like around 90 dollars in a week day but during the weekend is around 3 to 4 hundred but still very scared so could someone please suggest me to promote it more to earn more money. Thanks

Kelly

Watch out for the opening of new Mineski Grounds
165 Units, all core2duo with 2gig memory,9800GT 256bit 512mb ddr3 vcard, 2gig memory.

Ung una nila 110+ units all Q6600 quadcore processors

to Lukas, ahm sa first month ko nka 2000+ ako sa bill ng kuryente ko, ngaung new bill ko 1900+ matipid kz wla pa ako aircon ehehe! presko sa place nmin ksi mapino.. gamit ko lang orbit fan and exhaust fan kya super tipid. 15 per hr ko sa PC rent ko.., basta maluwang space comp shop mo di maxado mainit di na need ng aircon. makakatipid kpa pag LCD na monitor mo. Godbless sa Business

ganun din ako 7 or 8 ako open den mtatapos ng 12mn bale dlawa kme ng kapatid ko bantay sa shop shifting hati kme oras. location ko dto sa isabela..,

To Andrew,
dude! thanks for all the information! Im planning to put-up net cafe and this is very helpful, most especially yung mga figures na binigay mo. Though meron akong few questions to ask, hopefully you take time to answer (thanks in advance).. how much is your average electricity consumption and yung salary ng 2 employees mo? Ilang horse power yung aircon mo at gano kalaki yung place mo? again.. thanks in advance.

To ALL.. Thanks sa lahat ng input!
God Bless!!

yes

May IC ako dito sa Bulacan. Masasabi kong kumikita din naman kahit kaunti. ang mahirap lang, eh yung nangungupahan. upa ko per month is 4.4k. Ngayon, ita try kong dagdagan ang units ko kasi malakas naman dito eh. sayang pa nga kasi di ko na maacomodate yung iba kasi walang bakante lalo na pag hapon. pag nag click, medo makakabawi ako sa upa.

BTW, dito nako natutulog sa shop ko. Sa mga tga Marilao dyan, pahingi naman ng feedback kung madami bang IC anywhere dyan? balak ko kasi mag expand at target ko talaga eh sa mga probinsiya pero yung malalapit lang.

TNX!

I’ve already posted on another similar topic as this on yugatech and awaiting responses from viewers there, but I’ll post again here.

For all the shops out there now that are either, especially the successful ones, are you using pirated software?

Having to pay for those licenses for an OS really sets you back (if you make a profit at all) on getting your investment money back. Not to mention if you are constantly trying to keep up with the new games coming out. You all do know that when you buy a game that game is for one PC only, right?

So, is everyone here legit with their software? How strict is the government with enforcement of this antipiracy thing? I know they enforce it but I don’t know to what degree. Do they go after small shops (like what most of the people here are hoping to start or are already in), or do they really only focus on big companies?

Here are a couple links to consider:

http://www.papt.org.ph/

http://www.papt.org.ph/news.aspx?id=2&news_id=76&paging=6

Sure you can run a free OS like Ubuntu, but guess what, many of the popular games don’t run on Linux based OS (Ubuntu is Linux for those who don’t know). And as many of you may have noticed, it is the gamers that are the most loyal customers that keep coming back. They are your “cash cow”. I’d be interested to hear of any web-browsing only i-cafes running successfully today.

Any feedback on this would be helpful. I want to try out this business, but there are so many costs, can I compete against others that use pirated software?

ERRATUM: P5k per person pla ung sa salary not P7.5k/pax…

maganda lang ung bisnes na to if:
1. sarili mo ung place(hindi ka nagre-rent)
2. kaw din nagbabantay
3. marunong kasa computer

the tricks kc is how could you sustain the pricewar, dahil eventually darating un kahit sabhin na konti pa lang kayo ay dadami din yan at darating ung point na magkakaroon ng price war at kung sino ang mababa ang operational cost ay sya mananalo at ung 3 points na sinabi ko sa taas at meron ka nun im sure ur da winner.

marami nalugi sa bisnes na to, kc dati ok pa ala masyado competition at mahal ang rates 30-40 pesos per hr kaya kahit magbayad ka ng rent at magpasweldo ng tao at technician ay ok lang malaki parin kita, pro ngaun ala na, marami na kalaban at mababa na rates 15/hr meron pa dyan 10-12/hr kaya hindi ka mabubuhay nun kng puro k gastos, i mean bayad sa rent, attendant at technician. marami ko kilala nag invest half million at hindi nabawi as in lugi, kasi nga nung una maganda pa malaki rates at ala masyado kalaban kaya malaki kita at nasilaw sa laki ng kita kaya ayun nagbagsak kagad ng malaki amount para lalo lumaki kita, ng magtagal dumami kalaban at nagkaroon ng pricewar hindi nakayanan at nagsara kasi sa laki ng gastos at lumiit bigla kita, so my advice is kung magveventure kasa bisnes na to dapat ay sideline lng(additional income) at wag mo asahan hanapbuhay dahil short term lang to at wala security, at kung meron kang 3points na sinasabi ko pwede maging long term. i hope nakatulong ung enlightenment ko as one of the cafe owner

to all earning thru blogging please tell me how to do it. i also want to learn decently.. this is my email: joef****@****.***

to rj:

punta ka odesk

www.odesk.com

please we need extra income teach us how to do blogging.thanks

if ever you need units. email me at koul****@****.*** complete to set up your computer shop.

I’ve been into i-café business for six years now. If you need help in setting up i-café, email me at marci****@****.***.

guys andami kong nakiatang comment na mas malaki ang kita sa pagbblog lang… as in? you earn money bec. of blogging? gusto ko matuto… pls pls pls…
tnx guys,, ill wait for your reply

HI! I’m interested in blogging….pls.help me how to do it. tnx!

nag tayo po akong ng internet cafe pero feeling ko di sya kumikita ang laki kasi ng mga expenses dito. gaya ng monthly bill para sa internet, napakalaking bill ng kuryente. then ang liit pa ng kita per pc. its about to 15pesos per hour minsan wala pang nag lalaro.. mahigit 3yrs din akong nag business pero wala parin nang yayari di kasi ako makaipon ng pera kasi lagi nasisira ung pc. yung kita ko in one month sa pambili lang ng pyesa na pupunta.then everytime na may bagong games kailangan mo ring bumili ng software ng games. kaya laging may gastos.. kaya ngyon luge na ko . wala na rin ung mga computer ko binenta ko na at ang iba nasira na. para sakin ang internet cafe ngayon ang isa sa di magandang business. hindi tayo yayaman sa business na ito.. malaki ang gastos maliit ang savings.

my internet cafe has 45 units including 1 Timer PC and 1 Server PC. 2 2-tonner A/C units. and 1 1.5hp aircon. 2 electric fans.

my average electric bill is 29-33thousand a month.
and my location is in cagayan de oro city.

dun nga po pala kay rick nag post ng 3 qualities para tumagal ang ganitong business..medyo pasok ako sa 3 qualities na yan and it really inspire me..kcee naman ala ako idea sa ganitong negosyo..basta na lang naicipan ko magtayo ng ganitong negosyo kcee.. ala me work may sideline one time lang per mo. sec ng board per diem lang ang sakin dun.. kaya tinopak ako nag com.shop at para matulungan ko din ang husband ko sa expenses..kakahiya kcee almost a year nako ala work..plan ko mag work sa abroad kaso ang laki ng gastos at takot ding iwanan ang two lovely kidzzz.. ko..within two wiks naka set nato..isa pa nag guarantee ang pamangkin ko na siya na ang mag ha handle as tech at very willing naman cia mag pay back ng hirap ko sa kanya kacee ako ang nag baby sit sa kanya nung baby pa cia…well nag ha harvest lang ako ciguro ng mga good deed ko at mabait si god sa kin.. kcee good samaritan ang identity ko..jack of all trades at flexible sa kahit sang problems na na eencounter esp. if family..binigyan din po ako ni god ng mabait na tech.( un nag set nito mga pc ko…lahat umayon..mabait na bata kcee ( not all times..maldita din minsan..kahit hindi ko hiningi kay god..basta na lang dumating ang blessing…and i reaally thank god…pag may problem ako dito sa shop..una ang panalangin…
bye na po sana ma ka inspire din ako sa ibang gusto mag start ng ganito busines….god bless po sa ating lahat…

My GF family runs a cafe. It is a nice side business but they are thinking of giving it up – mainly do to outdated equipments & software.

I see that they can succeed by upgrading & better planning. I do plan on helping them.

I am here in the USA and getting software and equipments are no problem for me. I can all the software need as well as a few gaming computers, all-in-one printers & 2 or 3 servers.

But before I send any equipment to her, I will visit next year to see exactly what their needs are.

I agree that it is a business that can succeed but you have to plan & change / upgrade when needed.

you can succeed if
1) libre kuryente mo > singil sa internet pababaan ang kuryente tumataas yung iba nag jujumper
2) di ka gumagamit ng original na license> from win98 to winxp to vista now window7 nakailan palit kana per pc dapat license
3) squatter ka> di ka nagbabayad ng license di ka nag pay ng rent, di mo sariling pwesto kasi kung sariling pwesto pa rent mo nalang sa iba
4)location location and kamaganak mo si ampatuan> kung may tatabi sayo dapat papatayin mo
5) kamag anak mo si alvin flores> tuwing may tatayo ng bagong internet cafe pa boltcutter mo yung shop tapos kunin mo yung pc parating bago and upgraded
sorry ! Just kidding pero may sense naman ako na mahirap talaga ang ganitong business, so you need to think not only twice but thrice hehe
good day and god bless

LOL AT EVAN CO. but its true, magsu succeed ka, YUN NGA LANG DAPAT MAGING KRIMINAL KA MUNA. gusto ko na nga maging ampatuan, kaya lang dagdag na naman sa konsensya ko yun. parang fall in line lang, ikaw pinakabago ngayon pero pagdating ng panahon ikaw na pinakaluma maliban na lang kung angkinin mo yung isang buong lugar para kahit magkalumaan na, no choice and ibang tao kundi pumunta na lang sa iyo. disappointing talaga ang business na yan, well for experience’s sake na nga lang.

pwede magtanung about comp. business? ung malaki na kita ah.. anu poh history ng business niu,, at kumusta na business niu ngayon?
tnx poh hehehe pls. coment my quest.. heheh

pasali nmn ako sa business nyo este sa usapang business(^_^)
ask ko lng kong ano mga requirements pagnagstart ng dormitory o paupahan?may nabili kasi akong b-hauz sa ct at paparenovate ko then paparentahan sa mga students o workers din..thanks!

Zero knowledge ako way back 2006 nang kumagat ako sa promo ng smart bro, hulugan na pc bundled with internet connection.. isa lang ang Pc ko noon pero may tindahan ako.. naging agresibo ko sa pagpapatakbo at optimististic sa pagpaparami ng station at hindi tumigil sa pag-iisip ng mga bagong strategies hanggang ngayon para mapabagsak ang mga nanggaya lang dito sa area naming subdivision. We were 4 internet shops here dati pero yun isa napagsara ko na and the other two are new to the business at nagsisisi na sila ngayon kung bakit nila napasok ang business na ito?… Maliit lang dati ang site ko na yun na rin ang bahay ko at tindahan… ngayon napagpatayo na ko ng bahay at mas malaki na rin ang area and my internet business is fully operational- I mean mamili ka kung ano ang kaya ng pera mo at meron swak na promo para sa iyo o sa buong barkada kahit sampu pa sila may paglalagyan sila para sa 5 on 5 DOTA at take note LCD lahat yan, at samahan mo din ng mga chatters sa hiwalay na room sigurado hindi sila mabibitin at kahit anong oras meron station para sa kanila.
Yung technician ko noon malaki din ang naitulong sa akin although hindi naman nya itunuro sa akin ang maga nalalaman nya pero along the way nalaman ko na rin ang mga basics at hindi narin kami nagkikita ngayon. Importante yan dahil kailangan ikaw na ang technician sa sarili mong shop bawas din sa gastos yun at mas maganda kung sa iyo na ang area para maisabay mo na rin ang PC repairs… as of now I have 30 PC at parang gusto ko pang dagdagan kahit hanggang 50 para d2 na lang ako sa Pilipinas, masarap kasi ang walang amo kahit hindi ganoon kalaki ang kinikita mo, atleast walang nag-uutos a iyo.

i see that the continuing trend well here in my grandmas building here in paranaque.. maraming nag rerent na pc shop sa kanya.. mostly they come and go pero meron nmn ibang nag tatagal..

ang gimik nila is have fast pcs for games kasi likuran lng namin ay national highschool.. so thats their number 1 source of income.. mga bata.. kahit sabihin mong mura ang mga pc balang araw.. ndi sa lahat ng oras nakakalaro sila sa bahay nila kasi xmpre… and public school sila (no pun intended) pero the shops here charge a minimum of 17 pesos ung iba 20 pero ung mga nag chacharge ng 20 they are the first ones to leave after a few months..

im thinking of a way na kung pano ako makakapag tau ng successful na shop.. kasi sa taas may datamex college and accross nmn ung olivarez college tapos sa tabi premiere college nmn so angdami tlgang mga students..

well im only 22 kaya wla nmn masama kung mangarap ako db..

and tanong lang.. ilan minimum of years na ma outdate ang pcs.. kunwari bumili ako ngaun ng average rig..

mga around 9-10k tingin nio ba abot un ng 2years.. at 15hrs a day usage?

to kuya rick:
sori ngayon reply kc umuwiaq sa leyte eh,, tnx poh sa info kuya, malaking tolong yun samin, hehe nag survey aq sa comp, shop sa lugar nmn tlgang mai nag magdagan sa ka2laro ng comp. sai think ok plano q na mag 10 kc ung 15 nga dami naglalaro panu pa kaya pag 10? tama ba kuya rick? hehe ingatz,, ahm pd poh bah hingi contact number mo? tnx poh,, geh2 hipi new year….

the fact is internet cafe will last until students and pc gamers exist…the question is will the i-cafe last .the profitable rate at this point is 25 per hour , i own 3 cafes, below 25 RATE will be very risky , to mention software and hardware upgrades THE BANTAY SALARY , lets face it ,not all cafe owners have the the know how ability with computers,and not all cafe owners have accountants that records every bit of expenses to the last centavo..A 2K A DAY GROSS SEEMS VERY GOOD , BUT DO THEY REALLY KNOW THE NET INCOME? PROMO, A TREND ON CAFE THAT PULLS THE BUSINESS DOWN…15 PER HOUR ,IF THE STANDARD IS 20 PER HOUR…MATHEMATICS MY FRIENDS , YOU ARE THROWING 25% OF YOUR POFIT…250 PER DAY IF YOU SELL 1k A DAY, THATS 7500 A MONTH. 15K IF YOU SELL 2K A DAY….AT WHAT 10-15 PC A DAY WITH 15-20K ELECTRICITY BILL.. PLAIN STUPID. USE THAT PROMO LOSS ON INTERNET UPGRADE AND PC HARDWARE UPGRADE , PEOPLE WILL WAIT ON YOU , KAHIT PUNO KAYO…BEEN THERE AND STILL IS …AT 15 PER HOUR YOU’LL ONLY LAST TILL YOUR HARDWARE GETS BUSTED…WHY ASK FOR 15 PER HOUR IF YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH 25 PER HOUR…THINK MY FRIEND…YOUR LOSS NOT MINE….

nop, at 10/hr internet cafe is still viable(customer side) compared to smart and sun even at their 50/day unlimited promo, and beside majority of the citizen still dont have PC and even if they have could not run the latest games(pang net browsing lang kaya PC nila, he he he)

gud day to all!!just wanna know where i cud buy the most affordable units na required on gamings and internet browsing…help me please..

Hello again! Pls. advise me what kind of PHOTO PRINTER is best for internet cafe? I plan to buy SONY PHOTO PRINTER costs P 6,500(50% OFF fr. original price of P13K) Refill of Ink and Paper is 1,500, 100 papers only,means p15/4r, so masyadong mahal.. Pls. reply…Thank you!

Hi NOEL ive seen the website that sells 5 units for 75k. My pcs have same specs with them but better brands with high durability. If you like email me your email so i can send you the my specs and maybe we can do a little business :D this is my email anthony_estrada****@****.*** . I started my computer shop business last january this year… and its is good maybe im just lucky on my location.

TON… i emailed you bro
DOOM good point . i have a friend who wants to attach his shop if i ever go internet cafe… he is in the Printing business… like t shirts, invitations and mugs.
I

continue sharing…

power saver is a hoax, never ever believe what they claim. para maka save ka maintain mo nlang linis pc mo at least once every 2months. vacuum lang w/ paint brush at pressure air para matanggal mga dust. pc draws more power at high temperature or when overheat due to dirt, u dont need to air conditioned pc kung maganda ventilation ng place(air circulation or maaliwalas at maintained)

to anet: im using canon printer 3 in 1 model MP145 and its great! 2500 lang bili 2 yers ago. mura lng ink refill nya. ok narin sa photo printing

nop, but my friends did and nothing change on his bill. we use lots of power saving equipment/device in our industrial plant excluding them(that power saver youve said)coz its not true, its against the law of electrons/electricity… they selling it backyard dahil pas sa big company di nila kaya lokohin, matagal na yan kung tlaga reliable e di sana big time na company nila pero ganun parin guerilla bisnes pa rin. did you hear khaos fuel saver for vehicle? that one is also a hoax kaya until now d prin nag k-klik dahil ala naman tlga, you wonder why those what they claim ground breaking technologies ay hndi prin ganun kasikat gang ngayun, one perfect example is ung water powered car nung 70’s ni daniel dinggel sikat pinoy non pero gang dun lang. so beware… by the way im a mechanical engr

The cafe business is still viable world wide if the area is right and the owner doesn’t blow the budget with wasted spending.

For smaller cafes the owner can use lower grade computers and use good free software.

I recommend:

Open Office – openoffice.org to allow customers to word process etc.

CyberCafePro 6 – http://www.cybercafepro.com to allow the owner to manage the Cafe for as little as $0.

jesse, bro ako din sa bahay lang,mga lima lang din,,, alam ko wag ka muna kukuha ng permit, kuha ka na lang kung mag click, regards…renz..

Ah tnx bro, pwede pala yun. Naka set-up ka na ba ng unit mo? anu ba gawin mo internet and gaming ba?

Tanong lng po kung ok lng bang mag tau ng internet cafe khit smart bro ang gamit? Ano ba advantage and disadvantage nito?

Rick, hindi rin ako naniniwala na effective kaya lang sabi ng partner ko na nagtry effective daw kaya sige try namin sa shop. anyway, yung mura lang naman ang bibilhin namin.

@jesse

magkano ba budget mo for the start up?

kasya na kaya ang 60,ooo to start with 6 pc’s?

@Mottaka

Here’s my estimate for initial investment. yung repair and rent depende sa pwestong makuha mo.

PC 19,000×8 = 152,000
Aircon (2hp pwede rin 1.5) 23,000
Router 2,500
Hub 3,000
Telephone 1,500
Internet (no to plan 999) 4,500
Tables & Chairs 1,200 x8=9,600
Repairs 10,000
Business Permit 7,000
Advance Rent & Deposit 10,000×3= 30,000
Total 243,000

Ito yung projected income & expenses.

No. of PC 7
Daily Usage (hrs) 7
Daily Sales (hrs) 49
Rate per Hour 20
Daily Gross Income 980

Monthly Gross Income 29,400
Less: Expenses
Electricity 5,940
Water 500
Rental 10,000
Telephone 1,500
Internet 4,500
Salaries 12,000
Supplies 1,500
Amortization – Bus Permit 583.33
Depreciation – Hardware 6,488.89

Total Expenses 43,012.22
Net Income (Loss) (13,612.22)

Add: Depreciation 6,488.89
Amortization 583.33
Net Cash Inflow(Outflow) (6,540.00)

Sana makatulong ito sa you.

sobrang napaka mahal na ng price ng isang pc mo pati na ang mga peripherals. 19k??? makakakuha ka ng pc na aabot lamang ng 13k kasama na lcd monitor, at kayang magpatakbo ng highspecs na mga game ng dika gagastos ng ganun kalaki, kahit sa mga router at switches. isama mo narin ang mga utp cables, crimping tool, rj45 connector, mouse, KB, at headset o speaker. sugesstion ko: bumili ka by piece. yung bubuuin mo nalang. kung may kakilala kang makakatulong sayo, mas mabuti. punta ka ng gilmore, sa may sanjuan, dyan sa aurora. tpos pasok ka sa gilmore IT center, yung store na FOXCOM, mura ang mga prices ng pc nila dun. pati narin sa PC Gilmore. MAghanap kalang ng mga type-G na router, mura lang yun. dimo kelangan ng type-N kagad, dahil mostly, pag tpye-N ang gadget na kokonek sa router, may backward compatibility ito. Nasa 1.6k lang, pati narin yung switch. yun table mo, ipa pakyaw mo sa karpintero, para madaliin nila yung gawa. yung sakin napagwa ko ng 3k lang bayad. Pero pang 12 units. Kung may alam ka ng konti sa physics, dmo na kelangan mag aircon para di masira mga PC mo sa overheating. maku2ha mo yun sa design ng mesang ipapagawa mo. pati narin sa design ng lugar na pagtatayuan mo ng shop mo. ceiling ska exhaust fan lang, ok na. Kung alam mo rin gumawa ng common ground para mapatakbo mo ng 110 lang lahat ng monitors mo, pati printer, mas maganda. less ang expenses mo sa kuryente. mas maliit ang wattage, mas maganda. sa loob naman ng shop mo, gumamit kalang ng mga ELI na ilaw, yung mga tipong 12 or 9watts. maliwanag na, matipid pa. may ibat ibang kulay narin yun. yung sakin nga, 4watts lang eh. paghandaaan mo lang yung Bus permit, kasi dun ka mapapagod kakalakad ng mga kekelanganin.

ska para dik bumili ng licensed OS, mag ubuntu kana lang. hehehe

110 and 220 volts power supply have the same power consumption(power=volts x ampere), kahit ibaba mo ung volts ganun prin consumption coz ung ampere nyan ay tataas(so power still the same), and the disadvantage of using 110V is you need to use bigger wires so additional cost un(ung size ng wire is nakadepend kc sa ampere, the higher the ampere the bigger the wires), in summary hindi ka makakatipid sa 110V mas gagastos kpa coz you need to use bigger wire….just for clarification…

same lang un, magkaiba lang term na ginamit natin pero same prin un. power is also watts. watts kasi is a unit of energy but the exact term nyan sa engineering is power tlaga(energy ika nga). to prove my point, gumamit ka ng ammeter(device use to measure ampere). at 110V kunan mo ng ampere ung lets say PC mo at imultiply msa sa 110V para makuha ung power. and then at 220V kunan mrin ng ampere ung PC at imultiply msa sa 220V and you will get tha same power or watts(ung power na makukuha msa 110V and 220V is the same), try it its a very good experiment….

This advise not to use grounded circuits is totally incorrect. It is dangerous and bad advice. Always use ground electrical installations. It protects you from the risk of shock and protects your hardware. I am sorry to say the writer is misinformed. I suggest he get a copy of the Filipino electrical code and study it thoroughly.
The secondary reason for always using grounded or polarized plugs and receptacles is that it keeps you from crossing the neutral/common leg with the power/hot leg which crossing is what produces the shocks and shortens the life of the equipment. There are polarized plugs and receptacles when one wants to use 2 pin electrical circuits for lights and other permitted uses; otherwise use 3 pin grounded.
To install a grounded electrical service you can buy a special grounding rod at your builders supply and pound it in the ground close to your distribution panel (service entrance panel) Wire this grounding rod to a ground buss in your electrical panel Then run a third ground(green) wire to all your receptacles boxes and install 3 pin receptacles.. Black is hot (Power, Load) White is common or neutral and green is ground or earth.
Religiously using standard color coded wiring avoids mistakes and frees you from having to use a meter at each receptacle to verify the polarity.
This is a short and overly simple explanation but it should give you some insight.

“Kung alam mo rin gumawa ng common ground para mapatakbo mo ng 110 lang lahat ng monitors mo, pati printer, mas maganda. less ang expenses mo sa kuryente. mas maliit ang wattage, mas maganda”

hey, we have some misunderstanding here…what i am refering about grounding is the above statement of jun0865 on how to get 110V out of 220V(one line from 220V and the other line from ground)which is very dangerous.

of course electrical circuit needs to grounded for safety, but not using grounding on 220V to get 110V

hopes this clears,

of course you can get 110V out of 220V using ground but as i’ve said its very dangerous coz its not stable(the volts varies)and as youve said may get you electrocuted thats why i write to warn them.

im doing this several times on the job but only in emergency cases when there is no 110V source and only in a short period of time due to the risk involve. i think you wont believe if we can get 220V out of 440V using ground, we did this also several times during our emergency repair when there is no nearby 220V for our welding machine, but one of my guys stays on the circuit breaker if something happens

and lastly,what do you think the writer meant with the below statemement, coz you can only get 110V using transformer and nothing else as philippines is a 220V country. pls take note of his term “common ground”

“Kung alam mo rin gumawa ng “”common ground”” para mapatakbo mo ng 110 lang lahat ng monitors mo, pati printer, mas maganda. less ang expenses mo sa kuryente. mas maliit ang wattage, mas maganda”

The lack of electricity in some parts of Mindanao due to insufficient water to run the turbines has already caused the closure of many I-cafes.
If you want to start a cafe include a diesel generator in cost if you are doing it in a geographic area with frequent power outages.
Gasoline generators are too expensive to run and still make a profit.

sino my alam dito paano mag pa rush id? nag pa print din kami sana may makasagot kahit sino kung paano mag pa rush id dagdag kita kasi yan sa shop namin. tnx!

Glad i found this site.. its really helpful.

here’s my thing.. i have 20 client units plus 1 server, ok naman ung specs ng pc ko good for gaming, 19.5″ samsung lcd. Everything is set-up and ready na magoperate, problem is DSL CONNECTION.

I applied sa PLDT DSL ung tag 4.5mbps nila which is about 8,000 a month. past 1 month na since my application ang bagal pa din ng net hindi umaabot ng 3mbps aside dun nawawala ung connection. I called 171 almost everyday para ma fix ung problem, sobra bagal ng service nila at ang final answer nila sa amin ngayon ay may problem daw sa cable ng PLDT all their subscriber daw ay experiencing the downgrade of DSL.

Im planning to switch DSL provider. Can you help me on what DSL to choose from, ung makakapagbigay talaga ng fast connection and hindi na Ddisconnect.

Thank you so much! Need your help ASAP 1 month na din delay opening ng shop ko. Btw, my shop is located in Hilltop Lagro Q.C.

I agree with Jun. sa PLDT kahit d ka nagmumura. magmumura ka. he he he…

PLEASE HELP!

Lagal ba mag-offer ng wi-fi internet connection to the community with a fee? Kasi yung ibang restaurant & hotel may paid wi-fi connection… tnx…

Dun po sa mga may internet cafe na may nakatiwangwang na pc o kahit anong mahalagang gamit sa loob ng shop, magingat po sa mga nagtatanong ng computer tutorial para sa kanilang anak. may naexperience ako na may pumuntang 3 babae na nagtatanong kung magkano ang computer tutorial para sa kaniyang anak. kahit wala nmng ganung offer ang internet cafe nyo un ang itatanong nya then pasimple ng kinukuha ng isang babae ung system unit samin then ung isang babae nakabantay sa labas at ung isa naman nakikipagintertain. Ingat at magbantay po sa mga gamit nyo. para hindi magsisi sa bandang huli.

It depends. Pwede ang naisip mong magdagdag ng skype. Mura na, wala pang hassle lalo na’t katabi mo ay residential, mas madali kang makaka attract ng mga Cs. Ang drawback nito eh yung mga nag o online games e.g. (Dota(GARENA), SpecialForce Online, Dekaron) masyado nang ma lag ang laro, lalo na’t dumidipende ang mga ito sa bilis ng internet connection mo. Skype offers VoIP and video streaming at the same time. Just imagine nalang na may naglalaro ng Rohan, tpos may biglang nag skype, tapos nagreklamo ang Cs dahil dina humahampas yung character niya, malaki ang magiging epekto nito sayo dahil ang iisipin ng gamer eh, lagi nalang maglalag ang laro nila pag may nag skype.

$12.00-napakagandang suhestyon at kung tutuusin, napakamura nga naman. Pero madaming factors na dapat i consider at hindi yun ganun kadali. Meron akong mga suggestions pero it needs time, knowledge and money para maintindihan ng mga gustong sumubok.

Just like i said, posible to kung alam mo ang gagawin, like configurations, routing, etc… madaming factors, pero kung alam mo kung pano gawin, madali lang ang lahat ng to.

I dont think na makikialam pa ang Telecommunications Company dito, at siguro naman walang naka indicate sa agreement o contract ng kahit anong internet provider na bawal gumamit ng VoiP ang sinumang subscriber. Check your contract para sigurado.

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actually if you would be engaging in an internet cafe you should be able first to know what location is good for your internet business and aside from that you should be able to have your own starting money.. this is because if you do have you starting money you could easily buy things that is needed to build your computer shop

maganda ang internet cafe kung 15 pc pataas ang pc mo. kahit na 15 per hr pa yan. kikita ka ng 2 to 3k pataas kung puno (restals only). di pa kasama ang printing and psp, cellphone games services at loading station. kailangan din na tama ang pwesto. malapit sa public school highschools, dame projects! at gamers!. universities not cheap private schools. load up all games and services you can offer then expand your cafe while earning. ingat lang sa mga magnanakaw at inggeterong pinoy na sisiraan ang business mo. yan ang ikakabagsak mo.

hai.. :-D patulong naman.. I have 11 units plus server.. malakas dito ang online gaming lalo na ang cross fire.. kaso pag may nag internet, nagla-lag ung laru nila.. anu po ba ang cause nun at anu ang solution? thank you… :-D

talaga, malakas ung internet cafes.. lalo ma sa mga mlapit sa campus.. choosing the location is a a crucial thing in putting up a business.. pro no. 1 na naattract tlaga ang customers is the services you offer.. kaya lng, ung presyo ang unang nkikita nla.. haha.. daming dpat i-consider eh.. goodluck sa mga net cafe owners.. sana mkaput-up dn ako, few years from now, at sana, mas “in” na ang net cafes that time.. para mlakas tlaga income! haha!

guys pano ba kikita sa pagiging blogger? pls teach me namn, gusto q kze kumita kahit dito lang sa bahay.

I could see that StarCraft II is getting into the gaming geeks rapidly now. If I’m just planning to setup a cafe, what specs do I need for each unit work with SCII, including the other games?

ganito ginawa ko para patok ang internet shop ko, first wala akong aircon, so i charge little lower than my competitors, yung server ko sa labas, mas malakas ang printing ko ksi may mga napapadaan tapos magpapa print, o kya scan, meron din akong photo printing, tapos ang bayad ko sa sa internet plan 999 smart bro, ok lang ksi wala naman akong online games, pure internet lang talaga, puro babae costumer ko, gusto nila dito sa akin ksi tahimik walang gamers

sorry sa late reply.

@ helena:
about dun sa ginagamit mo, im sure, nangangapa kapa dun sa software. pero sa oras na nakabisado mo na ang handycafe, madali nalang cyang I navigate. Ive been using it for 2 years, at wala pakong naging major problems. aside from few bugs, un lang. If you want to know more specific instruction o yung mga bagay na dimo maintindihan, pwede kitang tulungan via email, or i can assist you personally if around Metro Manila kalang.

@ Maki:
hmmmm.. tamang tama. plan kong mag vacation sa davao next year. I can extend my support personally kung kinakailangan mo. dont worry, hindi ako maninigil ng talent fee… hehehe gusto ko lang makatulong lalo na dun sa mga nagpupursiging umunlad. 150k i think is enough. Tutulungan kita, post mo lang email mo dito akong kokontak sayo anytime.

@Razorous:
Your welcome!
Dko pa na try yung atom based. Although it was made to compete with AMD’s Geode system on chip. Ska ang pag kakaalam ko pang netbook lang ang Atom( not sure). Pero mostly kasi, pag gaming pc, mas recommended ko yung AMD. pang hatawan ang processor at subok na.

@Jun0865 Thanks! Yup just got 10units last Saturday with AMDs. ;)

Roughly 18k per unit. W/o add-on vc yet, once maset up na to with integrated graphics, i’ll see what vc im gona need.

Guys, what routers do you use? Is there any model that you may recommend for i-cafes? Since i’m providing gaming in my services, is it important that i could control bandwidth para sa mga gamers and office/internet users? On hindi na kelangan? Meron na kasi akong router, i just bought a new switch, but im not sure if this router is good enough or kung pang home use lang. Dlink na wireless cya. I’m not sure if there is any advantages in having just dedicated wired router vs the one with a wireless.

good day. ako po ay dating OFW and im planning to open an internet shop kse tingin ko po ay in demand malapit po kmi sa school at maraming gamers d2 sa amin, kya lng po wala akong masyadong alam sa computers. meron na po akong place sa gilid ng bahay namin aayusin n lng. may pinagtanungan n po akong technician at binigyan nya ako ng quotation pra sa computer package kya lng feeling ko masyadong mahal 18,000/unit tapos 600/unit ang installation at pgset-up…hindi po b masyadong mahal ito pra mgstart…nagpunta din po ako sa pcgilmore sa MOA kya lng hindi kse ako msyado na entertain kse madami tao pero binigyan ako ng quotation…hindi ko po alam kung maganda bng klase nb yun binigay nyang proposal sa akin…kung may mabuting puso na maaring makatulong sa akin (like sir JUN0865 nabasa ko po ang mga comments mo) ang Diyos n po ang bahala sa inyo…salamat po

Have this specs for gaming and browsing.
Using Windows 7:
Dual core processor, Intel or AMD(don’t use celeron)
2 Gbyte of memory ( RAM )
Geforce 9500GT video card for Nvidia or Radeon 3650 or higher for ATI. any amount of memory( memory is not the basis for Video card speed so don’t be fooled with 1 gig or 512 or 256, with the same chipset, they perform just equallly)
Not less than 160 Gbyte of Harddisk

Using Windows XP:

Dual core processor ( or any new single core processor, avoid celeron or sempron)
1 Gbyte or higher of System RAM
Nvidia geforce 9500GT or higher video card or Radeon 3650 or higher for ATI ( use any brand, Inno3d,Palit,Asus,Galaxy,MSI etc.)
Not less than 160Gbyte of Harddisk (SATA or PATA)

Using the cheapest available motherboard may be a smart idea, avoid PCChips brand. ECS,Asrock,Asus,Emaxx or Gigabyte is a better choice.

Select the fastest available internet connection in your place, believe me this has benefits.
You may not use voltage regulator if you used branded Power supply like Coolermaster, Enermaxx, gigabyte,HEC etc.
Genius brand of Keyboard is a good one with a cheap price as well as the mouse.
Use any PC Case but better select those with bundled fan, and the power supply bundled with the case may be use or replace with a branded one for more reliability.
To reduce power consumption, LCD monitor is a better choice, as well as space saving. 19-inch is ideal.

The problem is getting a reliable and consitent internet service in Manila. Most connections I’ve seen don’t exceed 2MB. Infact 2MB is almost non-existant. Online games these days are FPS based games (frames per sec). In layman’s term, who ever can click first wins. So for people who are aspiring to build gaming stations, come on, 1GB? 2GB? It is a thing of the past. Average PC’s now adays come with 4GB of RAM with 64bit OS on to take advantage of the whole 4GB.

Hey guys,
Advice lang po sa specs ko:
CPU: Intel i3 540
Mobo:Asus P7h55-m-le(LGA 1156)
Ram: 4G(2x 2G kingston DDR3 1333MHZ)
Vga: Msi R4670-MD1G
Psu: Coolmaster 460W
HDD:WD 500G SATA II
LCD:Asus 19″
or
CPU: Intel i3 2100
Mobo:Asus P8h61-m-le(LGA 1155)
Ram: 4G(2x 2G kingston DDR3 1333MHZ)
Vga: Msi R4670-MD1G
Psu: Coolmaster 460W
HDD:WD 500G SATA III
LCD:Asus 19″
Salamat sa mag-advice!

Hi to all internet cafe owners, 10-08-2011

im planning to have my own internet cafe “40 units PC and 15 units PS3” i already have my own place Location Cavite City i just need some advice from Experienced Owners..

correct me if im wrong

my idea is like this i have 55 units all together with ps3 and PC on AC Internet Cafe

Lets say 40 units are used for 1 DAY =

15 Pesos per/UNIT x 40 UNIT = “600 Pesos”
“600 Pesos” x 8 HOURS only = “4,800”
BUT im Planning to Operate my Internet Cafe 24/7
so 4,800 x 23 days = “110,400”
BUT im Planning to Operate my Internet Cafe 30 days a month…

“110,400” is that Right or wrong?… REPLY asap PLS thank You…

ganian din po ang situation dito sa amin d2 sa la union..since 2005 na ang negosyo na ito na namana ko sa kapatid ko and in those years marami ang nagtangkang magpatayo din malapit sa aking negosyo.ang pagkakaiba lang namin sila nagrerenta at ako ay hindi..tama yung sabi ng isa kanina na kung saan bago dun sila pupwesto.ang advice ko lang, alagaan nio ang mga loyal customers nio.hangang 2 mos lng mahigit yung mga nagpapatayo d2 malapit skin at nagsasara na din sila.ngayon may bago ulit comp shop at mas marami pa atang units kesa sa akin na 12 units lng.ang masama pa dito sa sitwasyon ko ngayon ay kamag anak ko pa ung huling nagpapatayo ng comp shop..putek ang yayaman na nga aagawan pa kami ng ikinabubuhay..ang edge ko lang, marunong akong mag ayos ng computer samantalang sila ay nagpapaayos lng.patience lang..sa una mawawala mga customers mo, wait mo lng tumatagal ng konti..

hi guys , magbibigay lang po ako ng opinion.. 3 years na po ako nag ooperate ng shop and ROI ko is 1yr and 6mos (1 1/2 yr).. 12 units ko plus 1 server..

mganda mag negosyo ng internet cafe or gaming shop lalo na kapag ito tlga ang hilig mo.. dpat marunong ka mag maintain ng computer pati na rin ang environment. iisipin mo din ang LOCATION kung san mo itatayo ang shop mo .. iwasan mo magtayo sa very saturated places, kasi mahirap mkipag compete lalo na kapag mas maganda yung specs ng pc ng ibang shop kesa sayo.

pana-panahon lang tlga ang business,, minsan malakas minsan mahina. kaya kapag dumating ung time na mahina ang negosyo mo dapat hndi ka mawalan ng pag-asa agad agad… darating yung time na lalakas yung negosyo mo . mag isip ka lang ng paraan kung pano ka ulit mkakahikayat ng customers. maglagay ka ng promo rate or any sideline business bukod sa rent ng pc..

kung gaming shop ang gagawin mo mag invest ka sa specs ng pc mo at accessories, yan kasi ung babalik balikan ng players e.. kapag maganda pc pati monitor tiyak yan babalikan yan ng tao.. consider mo din ung internet connection.. i prefer DSL para stable.. wag ka kukuha ng broadband (signal-based) kasi madali yan mag fluctuate at hndi yan pang gaming..

kung may pwesto ka na sarili mas mganda yun kasi wala ka na iisipin na RENT.. bawas na yun sa operational expenses mo.. so kahit mahina ung shop mo wala kang iisipin na monthly rent kundi kuryente na lang at internet..

about sa piracy naman, hmmm depende cguro yan sa location.. kapag nasa commercial area ka, example nasa mall or nasa city tlga may risk tlga na ma-raid ka pero sa panahon ngaun bihira naman yun.. kung nasa private place ka naman like subdivision ok naman mag-install ng pirated OS at games for starters,, then kapag naka bawi bawi ka na ng investment mo palitan mo na lang ng original OS at games ung naka install sa pc mo..

dapat lagi kang updated sa games or applications para alam mo kung ano ang mga iinstall mo na games at apps na patok sa panahon..

sikap at tyaga .. wag mawalan ng pag-asa .. yun lang po …

I just opened an internet cafe here in Makati. I did not put an aircon. It is doing good so far. Though rates in the area are ranging from 12-15, I stick to the 15 pesos per hour rate. The only edge that I have why I am getting customers are my computers because they are really good for gaming and I got a 5mbps internet. My shop is even a spot now for gaming. Players from other places like Taguig and Pasay are coming to the shop to play with the regular players in my shop.

Since I have a laundry shop located few blocks from my computer shop, I also receive laundries here. And I also have a pizza store in front of my shop.

In other words, you must have other “add-ons” business if you will put up a computer shop so that you can also earn froim the other add on businesses.

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i think computer shop is still a good business in the Philippines..

i have a business plan on this kind of business and you can email me for those who are seeking how to put up a good gaming computer shop..