After discussing the issue about the bandwidth limit and throttling of mobile internet with one of the reps of a local telco, we both agreed that the imposed monthly limit is a bit “limiting”.
My own postpaid account have been throttled several times before (read our story on What Happens After You Reach Your Data Cap).
What’s interesting that we learned from the conversation is that around 3,000 postpaid subscribers regularly exceed the 1GB daily threshold. The number might seem huge but it’s actually less than 2% of the subscriber base.
So the logic revolved around the idea that if you limit the usage of the 2% of the subscribers, you will be able to improve the experience (speed) of the other 98%. The analogy is similar to limiting the number of buses in EDSA (numbering around 2,000) and the time of the day they that can use the road so that the other 500,000 regular vehicles can travel more efficiently (i.e. faster).
Bus operators would complain that it’s unfair to them and that they should have 100% unlimited access to EDSA all the time, despite the fact that they hog the roads and take up 2 of the 3 lanes most of the time. Operators would say they pay the same road tax and income tax so they should be treated equally. The same is true with drivers affected by the number coding system.
And they have a point.
That is why we’re here discussing what to do with the daily congestion, not just of EDSA but also of our mobile internet traffic.
Is it fair (or does it make good business sense) to sacrifice the 2% to benefit the other 98%. Are telcos willing to let go of those 2% so that the 98% are better taken care of? By the way things are going, it would seem so.
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meh says:
The problem is some days i might need to download 3 or 5 GB and if I’m paying for the service i should be able to do that without being throttled.
I think the best solution is to switch providers. Let money do the talking
Sadly not much choice in the philippines
lolwut says:
Sad to say but the other provider has the same scheme or even worse. Yes, there isn’t much options here in PH, but there is something you can do BOYCOTT. I myself is gonna stop paying for my plan since I can’t use the service I signed for. With only months away from my end of contract, I won’t let them take any penny from my pocket anymore.
AAAAAA says:
sao yan ang fair usage policy nila.. magaging UNFAIR sa ba? potang*na..
anonymous says:
it may sound aristocratic, pero dapat priority pa rin ang POSTPAID subscribers, regardless of telco. money making at mas madami nga ang prepaid, pero anong point magbabayad ka monthly sa plan mo kung “limitado” makukuha mong serbisyo?!?
Calvin says:
let the money do the talking na lang…
– remove the “unlimited” or explain that it will have throttling
– add a new and more expensive “true unlimited” service na walang throttling so those who really want that high-speed mobile downloading should pay more.
people just don’t want to be misled by these marketing gimmicks kaya nagkakaroon ng mga negative reactions.
EDSA Bus says:
Exactly.
1. DO NOT CALL IT UNLIMITED.
2. Give different data pricing schemes.
3. I forgot this one.
pasmado75 says:
wag na lang silang mag-offer ng 4g kung di naman maii-maximize ng customers ang pag-gamit, kalokohan yang argument nila, marami sa bumubuo ng 98% na mga customers na yan tinitipid lang ang bandwidth nila para di sila tamaan ng FUP.
tina-throttle down pa nila sa 2G, it’s just as good as just disconnecting your data flow, walang kwenta talaga.
Danz says:
While helpful for majority of subscribers ang pagkakaroon ng sort of Fair Usage Policy, the way Globe did it is a bit unfair.
The limit is a bit small specially kung brina-brand nila ang service nila as a broadband service (Tattoo) at kung sinasabi nilang unlimited ito.
1GB/day or 3GB/month is just to little especially if you have a fast LTE connection and 2G speeds are just too damn slow to be usable especially for PCs.
A better option would for example let’s say 50GB full speed tapos throttled to around 1.5Mbps after reaching that cap. Kahit papaano usable pa rin.
danz says:
50GB/month I mean. Pero example lang yan.
rockz says:
agree ako dito sana ganayan nalang….
Netman says:
Money!Money!Money! Just like Mr. Crabs, All they want is money! It just shows how incompetent the companies of Filipinos have. If you would look at other countries, the way we pay them on average of 2mbps for them, is equivalent to 16mbps on other countries.
pasmado75 says:
pinagmamalaki pa ng mga bwitreng mga telco na yan na high-tech sila eh pinag-iiwanan naman ang pilipinas pagdating sa bandwidth. dagnabbit.
war shoes says:
you guys should watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyuIiG4c4Go
the article today looks like it came from a globe shill
arwin says:
gusto ko sna panoorin.. kaso bka ma hit ko ung 1GB n cap..11 min pa namn..
human says:
wow! this is informative….
yococs says:
I really dont believe that on average that only 3000 subscribers reach 1 gb,youtube HD alone would cost you about 50-100mb and thats only one video that lasts 4-6mins
So sa 10 videos alone wala na yung 1 gb mo wala pang browsing and gaming yun.Imbes na paangat ang technology natin eh pabagsak haaay
Abe Olandres says:
Sa postpaid pa lang to. If you include prepaid, then probably tens of thousands na. Besides, I think a percentage of them do watch videos but thru WiFi instead.
Miss Call says:
Would not that be the file size of the video in HD format? Is there a need for mobile use to view YT videos with a 720p resolution? Well unless the device is a tablet.
plan 1799 unli lte says:
Npkwalang kwenta tlga ng mga company sa pinas. Db unlimited? Un ang pinili nming plan tpos may FUP? Dafuq! Let the money do the talking. Lipat n smart.
Sephii says:
May cap din sa Smart, worse is 1.5GB/month lang.
Kailangan na natin ng bagong telco sa pinas, na walang capping
EDSA Bus says:
Not correct to compare EDSA with bandwidth altho may similarities.
Kasi sa bandwidth pwede naman siguro mag-offer ng different “unlimited” schemes. Di kasi pwede ilahat na lang yan isang FUP scheme.
How about different price scheme na different data cap?
I know marami dyan di naman abusado, hindi lang binibigyan ng tamang offer.
Abe Olandres says:
Yes, I was told they will offer different pricing for different bandwidth allocations. Like bucket pricing.
EDSA Bus says:
That’s nice. Thanks! =)
'em says:
Or sana if they can detect or what kung paano ginagamit yung data.. Kasi hindi naman lahat sa youtube o FB lang gamit ang internet. Katulad ako, I exceed 3GB a month kasi most if the time, I work from home. I access a lot of our web based applications and do FTP transfers a lot as well…
Tristan says:
This is what I’m sad about. Working at home becomes a norm nowadays but sad to say, our means to be able to work is now limited.
I’m a Freelancer too and I work on websites, downloading and uploading files to servers, etc. Then while at the middle of the job, biglang throttled ang connection mo, bad-shot ka agad sa boss/client/customer mo. Tsk tsk!
xer says:
Or sana if they can detect or what kung paano ginagamit yung data.. —-Globe can. Tried using my torrent app, 4g connection, but the app won’t work or get the right speed, limit to only 14 Kbps. But other apps works fine. Hell they can even send an add to your phone if you are at the airport or about to board a plan to tell you to turn on your roaming.
Hay naku, pera pera lang talaga. The video above is true, cap only creates doubts, words like schemes naturally have a diabolical meaning.
CAP IS CRAP
boohoo says:
exactly. feel you bro. i also work form home. sad. sad. sad. sad.
Jonel Marlo Fidelson says:
I hate that they offer LTE available for all data plan then limit thier usage to 1gb per day.. how will that work if you have lte speen probably in less than an hour you’ve used up all those mb already.. maybe what they need to do is cut all thier LTE so less traffic..
rush says:
This is a complete BS from globe.
– They should not have offered 4g/hs+ and encouraged people to use it when they know the network can’t handle too much traffic. People payed for it so should get the speed advertised to them and not get less service.
– Even their 3g speed sucks with bad(still!) coverage. and they’ll throttle it down to 2g??
– Don’t call the service “Unlimited” when there is a cap. UNLIMITED is UNLIMITED. I don’t know about that on globe’s own dictionary.
– They’ve been false advertising for some time now, not anyone from the gov sees this? hmmm…
xer says:
The government is waiting for people to go to the streets and make a protest, or someone jumps off a building for Globe’s Data Cap. Sorry, busy pa kasi sila lahat about Vhong. Kita muna na laos na tuloy si Napoles….
I would like to add this to the definition or sight this as an example of Daylight Robbery.
human says:
Mas appropriate siguro kung kinuha yung % ng 3000 sa total postpaid subscribers for unli internet (kasi yun yung pinangakuan).Hindi naman lahat ng postpaid subscribers internet habol (unless mali ako).
Anyway, kung 1Gb/day cap pag-update pa lang ibang apps ubos na lalo na sa ibang games.
Katy says:
It’s unfair to change the FUP of existing subscribers, bait and switch ang labas. Luging lugi naman ang mga postpaid subscribers. You pay ?50 for 800mb for prepaid tapos ?999 sa postpaid for 3GB? The selling factor for me when I got my Note 3 Plan was the “Unlimited LTE Surfing” looking back it doesn’t seem so economical to get an expensive (?36999) smartphone to be used on 3GB usage per month. I bet their sorry ass that more than half of their postpaid subscribers use more than 3GB/month.
globesabaw says:
Oh ayan kc globe nag offer ng free fb sa lahat ng subscribers tapos ung existing postpaid customers nyo ngayon ang ginigipit! Leche! 3GB / month sobrang kulang yan! Leche talagang globe na yan!
Phillip says:
This analogy does not fit the situation. A better one would be in a buffet. You subscribe/dine in an unlimited/eat-all-you-can buffet and they only let you eat 10 shrimps per person and the rest is Oishi crackers. Then Telco’s “pilosopo” answer, unlimited pa din naman eh, sitsirya nga lang. It’s actually making the cost to produce of the services at the expense of the customers.(you chose this buffet over the regular meal even though it’s more expensive because you understood you want the freedom to eat whatever you want until you are full or satisfied)
Mark says:
You mean the majority of people who only use their data for Facebook, Twitter and Instagram? People who could barely grasp the technology?
As a big advocate (slave) of cloud computing, I find this argument pathetic.
abrnaki says:
2% of all subscribers? 3,000 users only? sounds like b$.
The highway analogy doesn’t cut it. it’s like a 40kph limit on NLEX. when your car can do over 120kph and everyone else chooses to drive 30 on the slow lane.
Sides, how can the 98% benefit if they DON’T use the service as much as the 2%?
this just doesn’t make sense and a cop out to deliver better service.
rob says:
This is BS!!! Mukhang mapapa-cut ko temporarily ung line ko tapos lilipat na lang ako sa Sun. Hahaha! Parang non-sense na ung pagkuha ng postpaid plan. Sana marealize ng Globe na this is very wrong! I bet kokonti nlng subscribers ng Globe.
Nandy says:
Edi mag Sun ka! Duh, 2009 palang may throttling nang nagaganap sa Sun.
Phaura Reinz says:
This is so disappointing from Abe and from Yugatech as a whole. Thought Abe was on the side of the consumers, now he is just on of the many good people consumed by the unrelenting greed of the telcos, especially Globe.
Very disappointing.
Last, data caps and the EDSA traffic analogy is just bullshit. Yes, there are many buses and cars using the highway, are we to limit them? No. We can’t limit progress, what do we do instead? Build more roads, accessible roads. Same with this analogy, build more things to decongest Globe. We are paying a good chunk of our hard earned money, and this shitty service is what we avail?
Straight BS!
goddamn shills says:
shills! so it seems..
Nandy says:
Bleh, for all of those who treat themselves as “cloud computing slaves”, “innovative persons”, treating 2G speeds as “too slow for PCs”
Isn’t it high time you get a DEDICATED SUBSCRIBER LINE? A DSL broadband subscription? For god’s sake, that’s the purpose of having a DSL subscription! You’re relying all of your heavy traffic needs on a pathetic mobile broadband connection?
I’m also against Globe’s new FUP implementation, pero reading rants about how others are treating mobile broadband like it’s a replacement to home broadband is pure BS! Kaya nag-implement si Globe ng bagong FUP is because of you guys, kayo ang totoong ganid!
Christian Rasos says:
Well, may point ka diyan.
Sephii says:
Nakikita ko pa sa facebook comments, paano na daw yung torrents nila etc etc. sarap batukan eh. haha kaya naman may gumagawa ng batas kasi yung iba sobrang unfair. I think same with Globe and Smart, they implement FUP’s kasi some are too unfair.
Mike says:
I’m always away from home, so I can’t really bring my DSL. -.-
A says:
Not everyone has access to dsl/wired lines though.
Christian Rasos says:
Anlaki laki pa ng billboards along EDSA for the the “UNLIMITED LTE” bullshit. That’s Fake Advertising. Sayang di uso ang class suit dito.
Jp says:
The funny thing is that I have Smart, Globe, and Sun postpaid… Bihira ko na nga magamit ang Globe ko dahil madalas wala akong signal sa mga pinupuntahan ko(Makati and Muntinlupa area), sa kanila lang ako nakakaexperience ng capping.
So far, ang Smart at Sun never ko pa to naexperience. Also, I download files all the time. Ang consumption ko sa Smart MTD is 43GB while 25GB sa Sun and yet naka 3G pa din ako.
I guess it really just boils down to the fact that smart has a bigger allocation on data versus globe… Badtrip lang kasi mas mahal ang Globe.
Yusuf says:
I was considering switching to Sun. Too bad they still don’t have LTE.
Scott says:
Hmm we need more than 1GB ! :)
By the way, “taken care of” is the right phrase.
V1 says:
The EDSA analogy is BS! Classic Pinoy palusot just like how our Govt does it. Thats why our country has one of the most expensive but sllooooooowweeeest connection. Plain excuse just to charge but not improving their systems.
anon says:
Right! Analogy sucks. The limit only applies for those who subscribe to unlimited internet. Pag per kb or time-based ang charge wala ng limit.
So if those 2% uses more than 1GB of data pero hindi naka unli walang magiging problem doon sa remaining 98% of the subscriber base?
G2 says:
People pay for the service at the same rate as a regular DSL line costs and they’re not allowed to maximize their worth?
If it’s unlimited data, then it should be unlimited. I myself am guilty of downloading torrents, I love being at work and able to download movies and series for my personal viewing instead of leaving a laptop or a desktop at home running.
Should I care if I’m using up too much bandwith and causing problems for other users who can’t connect because the network can’t accommodate them anymore? Hell no. My terms and conditions didn’t specify I would be signing up for a plan but need to be considerate of others. And that we would all be sharing a limited slot in one area. Because that’s not my problem. Network congestion is not mine nor any of the users (whether they are power users or casual fbtards) problems. The plans are marketed and advertised as unlimited. If I or anyone else want to download a 20 gig file, I/they have the right to do so cause it’s supposed to be unlimited.
I hate how Globe and a few people keep blaming the minor 3%. That we congest the network because of our torrent files or our music/video downloads. Blah blah blah. They should remember that that 3% are mostly composed of those that pay the more costly lines like 1799 or 2499, and we’re just getting our money’s worth.
In the end, Globe couldn’t keep up with their commitments so in typical business model fashion, they screw us all over by finding a technical loophole in the terms, bringing in some scapegoats by placing the blame on the 3% and then providing false reassurances to the masses.
Ingat ingat lang Globe, di mga tangang customer kaming mga 3%. Lol dame ko sinabe. Makalipat na nga lol.
Rush says:
+1 to this. People have the right to complain and it doesn’t matter if they are downloading Terrabytes/ Gigabytes of files. They bought the service as UNLIMITED and it should function as UNLIMITED. If the network is congested, then it’s their problem not being able to keep up with the service they promised which people payed for.
Atheros says:
bkit saken even 6GB n ako sa isang araw. wala pring throttling n ngyyari. Globe Postpaid User
Victor says:
Here’s my take on this.
1. Globe 3GB > Smart 1.5GB
2. We pay 999 for 3GB/month? What a ripoff!
3. If they’re really concerned for the 98%, I’m part of that majority, how come we experience effin slow speed despite having that LTE or H+ signal?
4. These telcos’ marketing is good but complete BS on their products and services. They shouldn’t add more subscribers if their infrastructure cannot support it.
5. Globe only offers LTE to us postpaid subscribers. Therefore, they shouldn’t throttle our speeds because we are paying for premium, and we are using a different infrastructure compared to prepaid.
6. These telcos should provide the public with data and the subscribers usage. This is to prove that, those 3% are really hogging and pulling down their service.
7. Enterprise users shouldn’t have caps, these are users who consume data for work and business. If they should implement caps, it should be at least 20GB
8. As for the EDSA and Network analogy… Since the author agrees with that analogy, therefore he agress that these telcos’ infrastructure is poorly equipped to handle the number of subscribers that they have.
ads says:
and so i am back to my blackberry with BIS plan to save data. my job requires receiving, answering and forwarding large files thru email, it feels like yr 2008 all over again
damarkcus says:
2% of postpaid subscribers but the question is ilan nga ba talaga ang postpaid subscribers who uses the unlisurf ? magkaiba yan I think you need to research on that before making the analogy and a conclusion
reader says:
Let me give my perspective as a filipino who has been living in other countries.
Capping is really a prevalent practice no matter what telco you pick. Pricewise, our local telcos are surprisingly more competitive that our ASEAN neighbors. In fact, if purely on cost and services offered on paper, local telcos do offer more for less (yes, taking the cap into consideration as well).
However, the major problem with our local telcos is that the quality of their service is downright inconsistent. You have fast download speeds in the heart of the city, only for it to drop off just 10km away from the city center.
I only get 3G speeds where I am at. But I generally get 3-6Mbps no matter where I go. Even in the rural areas.
These local telcos should stop playing the speed game and concentrate on giving good and consistent service throughout the country.
Easy E says:
So it means that the network(s) can only accommodate only 2% of their total subscriber base. Also means that they have to improve their facilities by 50x more than what they currently can provide.
“Underserved” ang mga subscribers. At mali ang mga words na ginamit nila para sa mga plans na inoofer nila. False advertisement ang ginagawa nila ibig sabihin. Kailangan aksyunan ng NTC yan. Attn sir cabbarios.
crackinthewall says:
E bakit yung prepaid Power Surf ko na naka-cap na ng 1GB for 30 days, mabagal pa din na parang 2G lang ang speed? That EDSA analogy is bullshit, they’re not even close to being the same.
3000 is 2% of what exactly? All Globe subscribers or just postpaid subscribers? The fact is, while prepaid customers make up the bulk of Globe’s revenue, postpaid subscribers still pay MORE than your average prepaid subscriber so it is understandable that postpaid subscribers expect better service. Bokya na nga sa billing ang Globe, pati ba naman ito, babagsak pa sila? If they can’t sustain their unlimited LTE plan, they should stop selling those plans and just offer bucket pricing. At least it won’t be as deceptive as it is right now.
Miss Call says:
So how are we going to download our torrents now? Our movies, music, and apps are more than 1GB in size combined. We are paying customers. Let us download our torrents!
Sam says:
Itanong mo sa pirata yan. Ang laki ng problema mo.
Cedric Lee says:
There’s this thing called DSL. Bawal ang cheap sa mahilig mag torrent.
sbucks says:
GOD! They keep saying that they’re “upgrading their systems” and they still can’t service 98% of their postpaid subscribers properly??? Don’t call it UNLIdata. The fact that Globe is limiting the speed at which I can download data does not make it unlimited. That already is a limit.
tony says:
PLDT mydsl same price s globe no data capping unlimited the true unlimited,lipat n s PLDT, paputol ko n globe dsl ko
Faust says:
Im a heavy user even if i dont use torrents for downloading videos, my internet is turned on 24 hours a day 7 days a week, all off a sudden they send sms thru 8888 that i have exceeded 1gb, so hows its gonna be? shift to another network? I have no other choice. Im a postpaid user for more than 3 yrs.
Rush says:
It doesn’t matter if they are downloading Terrabytes/Gigabytes of files, people have the right to complain because they bought the service as “UNLIMITED” and it should function as “UNLIMITED”, no “#GB cap” stated on their advertisement. If the network is congested, then it is globe’s problem for not being able to keep up with the service they promised to people which they payed for.
mvinci says:
Lets find out if fucking globe is telling the truth. Pls take this survey if you are a globe postpaid subscriber. Share this also to other globe postpaid subs. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Z8bsvahEy1inJEcetdglL97H9jHg8fmYNE1hq2mfwLE/viewform
Tomas says:
We’re actually still lucky compared to other countries which actually “caps” bandwidth to less than 3GB a month for postpaid subs. Singapore only gives around 2-2.5GB a month for roughly P1,000 a month. After that, you get no data, not even 2G speeds.
My only gripe is, our local telco’s services are inconsistent as hell! If they can provide quality and consistent connections, then I’d be happy with my 3GB allowance.
Smokescreen says:
Oh cmon! Globe simply wants to make as much profit as they can. Sa unlimited kasi the amount subscribers pay is fixed. So they try to control that. But if it’s per kb or the time (P5 for every 15mins) based usage….kahit siguro maka 50GB ka as long as babayaran mo, then they don’t cap it. Kasi kikita sila dun. Obviously it’s not that their capacity has limitations. If ganun dapat may cap lahat across the board.
tipz says:
Open up a petition online then spread the word sa lahat. Letche kasi eh, eto dapat ung isa sa mga nilalabas s news hindi ung puro showbiz. haha.
Secret Agent says:
1. I attest na mas cheap ang LTE service sa pinas. US Telco charge $$ per MB for LTE users. Tayo Fair Usage lang.
2. Reklamo “Dapat unli ang unli”
– parang the argument is based on word usage. Maipilit lang na unlimted dahil unlimited. Unli naman ah, babagal lang.
I think the analogy makes sense and I think the counterarguments don’t.
I also think na makikitid pa ang utak ng karamihan about the concept kaya the arguments a
3. Reklamo “Not my problem kung babagal ang network nila” and “I download torrent on mobile”
– it is a NETWORK, these selfish takes irritates me a lot.
Sige i push natin na lahat mag torrent download. The 2% heavy users gawin nating 98%. I know it’s extreme pero imagine anong mangyayari sa service nila.
Torrents should be downloaded from a home wired connection, d nyo ba nababasa ung warning kapag big files yung dinadownload?
3. Reklamo “mabagal/inconsistent ang speeds” True,and it could be worse if they don’t manage the 2% that’s putting a stress in their network.
It can alse be better, but hey, that’s their deal.
I think the analogy makes sense and the counterarguments don’t.
I think marami pa ang makikitid ang utak about the concept which makes their arguments either weak, fallacious, irrational, and/or irrelevant.
comment says:
I’ve been a globe subscriber for 3 yrs. kaya ako nag renew 2 yrs ago mabilis sila sa area ko. galing na ako sa smart na dati mabilis 6yrs ago pero bumagal at nasira 3yrs ago nong huli dahil sa dami ng subscribers. Ang punto lang naman FALSE ADVERTISING. Kukuha sila ng customers sa area na aakitin nila sa ‘UNLIMITED PLAN’. Pagka napuno na nila, pipiliin nila yong mga mahinang gumamit. Then they’ll limit the previously unlimited customers, para mainis ka at lumipat. IF THEY CANT FULFILL THEIR ADVERTISING PROMISE they shouldnt offer them. Mag advertise na lang sila ng ganito… Unlimited kami… pero pag lumampas ka ng 1gb putol na connection mo. Mag a advertise sila ng LTE, na mabilis daw, na unli daw, papipirmahan ang contract, 2yrs unli daw tapos after 1 month,data cap…fair use daw. VOTE WITH YOUR MONEY.STOP PAYING. para nila tayong ginagawang mga drug addict…eto na unlimited!!!…maglaro kayo at mag download!!! (then i’ll throttle you and make you pay triple for my services…HA!HA!HA! You can’t refuse, you’re hooked!!!)
torr says:
wag niyo na pong ikumpara yung FUP dito sa Pilipinas at sa ibang bansa. Una, sa kanila bawal ang false advertisement, dapat klaro yung mga disclaimer, kung unli unli talaga. Tsaka wag mo rin iconvert yung presyo ng plans nila into peso, magkaiba cost of living nila sa atin at malayong malayo yung service na binibigay ng telco nila kumpara sa atin. magiging mahal talaga pag kinonvert mo.. dati ako sa callcenter, $69 yung unli plan ng isang telco na sinupport ko. kung icoconvert mo into peso yun around 2500 pesos. kumpara mo ba naman yung sa 999 na ‘unli’ plan ng Globe? pero ano ang halaga ng 999 dito sa atin, ndi ba medyo malaki na yun, sa kanila $69 parang barya lang. i hope you get it.
FUP is a practiced by almost all the telcos around the world, the difference is the service that the foreign telcos provide to their subs, mas consistent sila at malinaw na kung anong cap ng plan mo. Eh dito sa atin panay market nila ng 4G, eh iilang porsiyento lang ng Metro manila yung covered, tingi tingi… tapos sasabihin nila “stream videos” “download music, videos in seconds!” ndi ba inencourage nila mga tao na gamitin yung network nila?
Naiintindihan ko na may mga makitid utak at talaga napaka impraktikal na talagang nagtotorrent sa phones, ang logic naman nila eh bakit pa ginawa yung app na yun kung di gagamitin para sa phone/gadget? Pero di kasi lahat ng tao dito sa atin may fixed DSL sa bahay… kung titignan mo presyo, eh lumalabas pa na mas mahal yung DSL kesa sa 3G/4G dahil mas mabilis pa yung wireless kesa sa DSL.
Ang punto ko, kung 2-3% lang yung sinasabi nilang kumakain ng bandwidth ng network nila, eh ndi na sila dapat nagdadagdag pa ng subscribers dahil ano ba yung 3%? Malinaw na hold up yan sa mga customer. May Cap na nga sila eh napakabagal pa rin ng connection nila.
Secret Agent says:
1. I attest na mas cheap ang LTE service sa pinas. US Telco charge $$ per MB for LTE users. Tayo Fair Usage lang.
2. Reklamo “Dapat unli ang unli”
– parang the argument is based on word usage. Maipilit lang na unlimted dahil unlimited. Unli naman ah, babagal lang.
3. Reklamo “Not my problem kung babagal ang network nila” and “I download torrent on mobile”
– it is a NETWORK, these selfish takes irritates me a lot.
Sige i push natin na lahat mag torrent download. The 2% heavy users gawin nating 98%. I know it’s extreme pero imagine anong mangyayari sa service nila.
Torrents should be downloaded from a home wired connection, d nyo ba nababasa ung warning kapag big files yung dinadownload?
3. Reklamo “mabagal/inconsistent ang speeds” True,and it could be worse if they don’t manage the 2% that’s putting a stress in their network.
It can alse be better, but hey, that’s their deal.
I think the analogy makes sense and the counterarguments don’t.
I think marami pa ang makikitid ang utak about the concept which makes their arguments either weak, fallacious, irrational, and/or irrelevant.
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SunCell Subscriber says:
Kung agree ka sa analogy ng article, edi agree ka din na kasing bulok ng infra ng Globe at Smart ang EDSA?
Secret Agent says:
I wouldn’t dare speak about network infrastructures.
The analogy is not about the network vs. the road.
It’s about managing traffic. In that sense the analogy holds true that both Globe/Smart and EDSA have issues with the high volume of traffic and that both have implemented measures to manage it.
Kaya ba marami nde nkagets ng analogy dahil kinukumpara nila ung cellular company sa kalsada? HAAAYS
SunCell Subscriber says:
So ano ba dapat ang analogy kuya? Globe/Smart is to MMDA? Ganun?
Secret Agent says:
That last retort makes me understand why the analogy was difficult to understand.
My last explanation has expounded the analogy to a degree that should make the point obvious.
If you insist on comparing physical entities. by all means.
SunCell Subscriber says:
Okay, I get your point naman. Peace na tayo. In the end, parehas naman tayong inis dun sa mga abusive users.
Which I can relate to a reckless bus driver? haha joke kuya!
SunCell Subscriber says:
1.) Ano ba nirerepresent ng 2% dito? Lahat ng postpaid subs, kahit yung walang unli data plans? Eh talagang 2% lang yan, sa dami ng naka plan 399, 499, all unli, etc. Ang dapat i-take into account eh yung mga postpaid subs WITH UNLI DATA PLANS! Malamang nasa 80% niyan, lumalagpas sa 3GB/month. Bakit? Dahil..
2.) Problema kasi sa mga abusadong users na yan, porket nagbabayad ng P999 gusto nilang makuha eh yung serbisyo na worth P1999 sa wired broadband.
3.) Nakalagay sa kontrata niyo na pwedeng magbago ang terms of use ng postpaid line niyo, PERO PIRMA PADIN dahil nakakita lang ng “UNLIMITED”. Ayan, madala kayo! Reklamo pa kayo ng reklamo, edi…
4.) Lumipat kayo ng telco! Tignan natin kung kaya niyong bayaran ang pre-termination fees niyo, knowing na sobrang kuripot niyo para umasa sa mobile data at di magpakabit ng mobile broadband?
5.) At wag kayong lumipat sa Sun, masaya kami dito at di namin kelangan ng mga abusadong users tulad niyo para magka-FUP din kami!
what even says:
3% ng subscribers nila? Na postpaid? Lahat ng postpaid? Even those without data plan? Na-correlate ba yan sa mga may wifi sa bahay? What about if the user only has Globe mobile data as primary connection? What is the total population they are sampling from?
The details are so vague and unclear on this article. Don’t buy into their bullshit. The telcos just want to be paid more for doing less service. They can’t even provide stable 3G service (Globe) and they want to throttle you to 2G (for Globe this means, no internet at all).
vvs says:
Analogy is not really the perfect choice for the issue. I used to have both unlimited data for globe and smart and globe really sucks bigtime.
I feel that the speed of smart 1500 unlidata is still too slow for my needs due to the cap and switched to Infinity. And now I am getting an average 8MBps on peak hours and an average of 100GB a month. If I will be on orepaid or regular postpaid, I doubt I will have enough patience to use the service of either telco.
The real issue here is the there is a doupoly of the market making it impossible for us to have cheaper and better connection. Currently, if we want to get a real unlimited and premiere service, you must be prepared to pay for it.
SunCell Subscriber says:
“The real issue here is the there is a doupoly of the market making it impossible for us to have cheaper and better connection. Currently, if we want to get a real unlimited and premiere service, you must be prepared to pay for it.”
TUMPAK!
Globe Sub since 99 says:
what do you expect, our connection is one of the slowest in the country. Halos lahat na lang ng public utility substandard service. Nakakalungkot talaga haaays
Globe Sub since 99 says:
What do you expect, our connection is one of the slowest on *Earth. Halos lahat na lang ng public utility substandard service. Nakakalungkot talaga haaays
Rei says:
I was a postpaid sun subscriber bago ako nag shift to globe. Bago ako nag shift, tinanong ko globe kung may CAP sila sa postpaid or not. Sabi nila wala daw sa postpaid, meron lang daw sa prepaid. It only shows na nagsisinungaling sila para makahikayat ng subscribers. Mabuti pa ibang telcos, upfront nila sinasabi kung may CAP Sila or wala pag tinanong mo, di nagsisinungaling.
SunCell Subscriber says:
Malamang, eh recently lang naman pinatupad ang FUP ng Globe eh. Problema kasi sa mga tulad mo, malaman lang na walang capping ang unli data, subscribe agad. Di ka nagbabasa ng kontrata na anytime eh pwede magbago ang terms of use nila.
Tsaka salamat, nabawasan ang Sun ng subscriber na abusado like you. Labyu!
Smokescreen says:
SunCell Subscriber – Actually that’s a major mistake by Globe. You are correct though nasa contract nakalagay na pwede magpalit ng policy ang Globe w/o prior notice. But if it’s a major policy and the client based his decision on such policy, then by law…the contract is voidable. A customer can’t change Globe’s policy or demand it. But he can have the contract revoked. Kaya for the FUP, dapat talaga ilabay ng Globe yun FUP clause talaga. Hindi pwede magtago sa Globe reserves the right to change policy w/o prior notice.
Rei says:
Suncell, ang pinaglalaban namin is yung promise nila to provide an unlimited LTE service (provided you have lte phone, sim and signal) na binabayaran namin. Kung di sila nagpromise noon, wala sanang problema. Wag nilang linlangin mga subscribers.
They promise to provide that unlimited service. Tapos babaguhin nila in the middle of contract?
Regarding cap thing, kausapin mo taga globe ngayon, sasabihin nila sau, na dati pa daw may CAP. Pero sorry daw for the ‘misinformation’ ng tauhan nila (pagsabi ng walang CAP). Di lang ako nilinlang nila. Marami kami. Sinabihan ng walang CAP on different bussiness centers nila even sa 211 nila. Lahat pala yun mga yun apparently told us a wrong information. Sila na nagsasabi ngayon.
SunCell Subscriber says:
sus, palusot mo! sabihin mo, nalinlang ka lang talaga ng Globe kasi naakit ka sa term na unlimited. Walang cap ang globe/smart/sun mula noon hanggang ngayon. Throttled lang after ma-reach ang data allocation so either eng-eng yung CSR na kausap mo, or uto-uto ka lang :p
thor says:
@suncell, the globe use the term unli lte, pero limited? paki explain,labyu
kyle says:
unlimited, meaning you never stop getting internet/data service, pero your speed gets throttled once you reach the fup limit. pero i do agree na unli is a bit misleading especially sa uninformed.under-informed.
one of the documents you sign btw when subscribing to a postpaid plan is the FUP agreement/policy, so, dapat alam ng subscriber yan
kingzyke says:
Parang press release lang tong article na to.
the 2% thing is complete BS they are computing this BASED ON ALL PHONES like dumb phones or secondary phones that do not use the internet at all. Im sure the number would be 40% for 4g customers and maybe 30% of 3g customers(kasi congested narin)that will hit this CAP, THATS A LOT OF PEOPLE kahit pa postpaid lang yan. this is all about maximizing profits not to the benefit of all. kung dati pa nila sinabi yan na limited ang usage we wouldnt have this issue hindi sila congested, but im sure less ang subscribers nila. so I BELIEVE they chose to hide this for profits.
Rei says:
Suncell, wag ka magalala. Babalik ako sun kahit na mabagal, di naman nagsisinungaling. Sa ngayon… Hahaha… Dyan na naman ako maghahasik ng lagim.
onggeo says:
Globe postpaid subscriber for the past 3 years. Kung hindi ako nagkakamali matagal ng nasa contract nila na mayroong Fair Use Policy, ngayon lang siguro nabigyan pansin kasi marami nang naka-subscribe sa data plans. Try din natin magbasa ng fine print bago pumirma sa contract. At kung sasabihin niyo na sa advertisement nila nakalagay na Unlimited, malamang may fine print din yun na nakalagay “subject to Fair Use Policy”. Hindi ko sinasabing tama ang ginagawa ng Telcos pero wala silang ginagawang illegal dahil nga may fine print na FUP. Kung tama ang nabasa ko na walang cap ang PowerSurf ng Globe edi mag PowerSurf kayo, hindi naman kayo lalampas sa P999 dahil sa anti-bill shock at kapareho lang ng presyo ng UnliData.
Otaku says:
To those crying abusado or ganid or get a dsl connection etc.
2014 na mga tol. Kaya na nang mga phones/tablets naten magtorrents at mag multi task. Di namin kasalanan napagiwanan ang iba sa perception nila kung ano ba ang pwede sa mobile internet. Fyi di cheap ang plans ng unlisurf/lte ng Globe. So don’t cry foul just because some power users know how to maximize their products. Kaya nagagawa ng Globe magpatupad ng ganito kasi karamihan sa mga customers medyo ignorante. Tsk
SunCell Subscriber says:
2014 na, wala ka pading pambili ng original na Blu-Ray movies. :) Sa bagay, you maximize your internet usage kasi yun lang naman ang kaya mong bayaran eh diba? hahaha!
kingzyke says:
^I have high speed DSL as well. wag na tau magmalaki to others that do not have the same capabilities. the problem with this is if we do not stop or fight this they can do this for home dsl as well. remember may disclaimer din ang pldt minimum 150 kbps and reliability of 80%
ang dsl plans nila im sure other companies ganun din they just hide it to sell sell sell
SunCell Subscriber says:
^Ang lesson kasi bago pumasok sa kahit anong kasunduan, basahin yung kontrata para di ka nagrereklamo sa huli. Yan kasi ang nangyayari ngayon. Nasa kontrata yan na pinirmahan ng subscribers. Kahit na sabihin niyong misleading o false marketing, pinirmahan niyo yung kontrata.
FYI hindi malayong ma-implement ang ganitong FUP sa DSL lalo na kung marami talagang abusadong users tulad ni Otaku. Kaya kabahan na kayo, haha!
Otaku says:
Lol palibhasa di ka pa nakakabasa ng T&C ng Globe kaya kung makapag assume ka kala mo alam mo lahat.
Our T&C states that we will be provided UNLIMITED DATA. And while sinasabe dun it may be subject to Fair Usage Policy it does not explicitly state we will be throttled down or kicked out to the 2G highway once a certain limit is reached. Kasi it defeats the purpose of saying it’s unlimited, un pala connection lang at not necessarily bandwith.
Wag masyado mag assume nalo na kung di naman globe sub.
SunCell Subscriber says:
Hala, sige, hanapin mo yung application form na finill-up-an mo dati.
“Globe reserves the right to vary the Acceptable Terms on Fair Use without prior notice.”
Nung pumirma ka, you’re giving them the right to change your postpaid promo mechanics without prior notice. Kahit naman anong telco may ganyang fine print so I don’t need to be subscriber of each to know. :)
Otaku says:
Maapektuhan sana kaso nakita ko Sun subscriber ka nga pala. Tsaka mo na ko kausapin pag umabot sa 1MBPS connection mo. Hahah, ktnxbye.
SunCell Subscriber says:
Eh kamusta naman yung 48KBPS connection mo after 3GB? HAHA! Patawa!
Otaku says:
Hahaha halatang sanay na sanay ka na sa kupad na speed kaya kung makainsulto ka ng mga taong nagrereact anlakas eh.
Ok lang, kahit magamit ang 3gb. I can still live more. Lol
Lea says:
I hope Sun Postpaid implements their own FUP as well, tignan natin kung hindi magreklamo tong si SunCell Subscriber.
SunCell Subscriber says:
^Wag kang mag-alala, I am prepared to pay more kung makita kong kulang ang FUP ng Sun, and I am also prepared para makuntento sa allocated bandwidth kung alam kong di ko kayang magbayad para sa totoong unli internet.
Sana ganun din kayong mga Globe subscribers :P
Bluerain says:
@Lea
Haha. Ang Sun ang naunang nagpauso ng tunay na ‘UNLIMITED’. Hanggang ngayon ginagawa parin nila yan. Pagdating naman sa ‘INTERNET’ talagang tunay na ‘UNLIMITED’ ang binibigay nila at ganun din ang mangyayari tulad ng ginawa nila sa ‘UNLIMITED’ text and calls nila. Yan ang tunay na ‘UNLIMITED’. Eto ang FUP ng Sun nila ‘All is well’. Heheh.
Lea says:
Though, I’d take a consistent 1MBPS than a measly dial up speed after 3 gigs
please says:
Just for transparency, as it seems both globe and smart are using the same global economic model and alot of people here are bashing why our telcos are implementing caps but other countries are not. fyi, other countries in asia, as well in the us and canada already have data cap:
for better understanding, this is the CURRENT FUP for wireless carries in the US :
Verizon Fair Use Policy :
Plan Details $45 Data Allowance 250 MB /Data Overage $15/250 MB Voice & Text Allowance Unlimited Unlimited
Plan Details $60 Data Allowance 1 GB /Data Overage $15/500 MB Voice & Text Allowance Unlimited Unlimited
Sprint Fair Use Policy :
Plan Details $79.99 Data Allowance 12GB Data Overage $0.05/1MB
Plan Details $49.99 Data Allowance 6GB Data Overage $0.05/1MB
Plan Details $34.99 Data Allowance 3GB Data Overage $0.05/1MB
AT&T Fair Use Policy
Plan Details $14.99 Data Allowance 250 Data Overage $14.99/250MB
Plan Details $30.00 Data Allowance 3GB Data Overage $10/1GB
Plan Details $50.00 Data Allowance 8GB Data Overage $10/1GB
T Mobile Fair Use Policy :
However much you use the internet, you’ll never get charged extra
We’re the only operator to offer you a fixed price for browsing and emailing on your mobile broadband connection with no limits and no extra charges.
Your plan will come with an allowance which varies depending on the plan that you select however we will not charge you if you go over your allowance. If they go over their allowance we will not charge any extra or prevent them from using the internet however we may restrict their usage on downloads and streaming.
If you’ve bought a tablet, iPad or iPad 2 on a pay monthly plan, you’ll get 1GB of data to use a month. But, great news for night owls; you’ll also get an extra 1GB ‘quiet time’ allowance to use between midnight and 10a.m.
** this is the current pricing plan and data allowances for each mobile carrier in the US.
if we will be looking into the price and plan ranges in the us; i think what globe and smart currently implementing is atleast fair and can still be considered “unlimited”. However, as what others pointed out, they do need to improve speed consistency and reliability; as well as lte distribution across the country.
one main focal point is the fact that once we reach the specific cap, the speeds are throttled and bottle-necked: it is neither stop nor are we charge overages for going beyond the existing data caps.
for heavy user, there is always dsl and t1 line. mobile data was never meant to replace a hard line internet connection.
SunCell Subscriber says:
Not to mention, U.S. telcos also charge extra/allocate separate allowance for data tethering.
comment says:
I’ve been a globe subscriber for 3 yrs. kaya ako nag renew 2 yrs ago mabilis sila sa area ko. galing na ako sa smart na dati mabilis 6yrs ago pero bumagal at nasira 3yrs ago nong huli dahil sa dami ng subscribers. Ang punto lang naman FALSE ADVERTISING. Kukuha sila ng customers sa area na aakitin nila sa ‘UNLIMITED PLAN’. Pagka napuno na nila, pipiliin nila yong mga mahinang gumamit. Then they’ll limit the previously unlimited customers, para mainis ka at lumipat. IF THEY CANT FULFILL THEIR ADVERTISING PROMISE they shouldnt offer them. Mag advertise na lang sila ng ganito… Unlimited kami… pero pag lumampas ka ng 1gb putol na connection mo. Mag a advertise sila ng LTE, na mabilis daw, na unli daw, papipirmahan ang contract, 2yrs unli daw tapos after 1 month,data cap…fair use daw. VOTE WITH YOUR MONEY.STOP PAYING. para nila tayong ginagawang mga drug addict…eto na unlimited!!!…maglaro kayo at mag download!!! (then i’ll throttle you and make you pay triple for my services…HA!HA!HA! You can’t refuse, you’re hooked!!! PAY ME MONEY!!! PAY!!PAY!! YOU WONT BE HAPPY WITHOUT ME!! HA!HA!HA!)
Ric says:
Hi Abe,
Just a thought
“The number might seem huge but it’s actually less than 2% of the subscriber base.” – Why not ask Globe to get the % of users that are on a Data Plan that are exceeding 1GB?
Getting the percentage out of all subscribers does not make any sense because if you’re not on a Data Plan, you really can’t consume more than 1 GB. This is why the number looks really low.
Read Pls says:
How about you read the title? “Around 3k postpaid subscribers reach 1GB a day.”
There’s the number. Read before leaving stupid comments.
MAD says:
“suncell” kung gusto mo magbayad ng 10t o 1million para sa internet mo eh karapatan mo yan. pero wag mo maliitin at kutyain ang ibang tao kung yon lang ang kaya nila ibayad at may opinyon silang iba. ang punto lang naman eh wag mag offer ng 999 monthly “unlimited”. Bentahan kaya kita ng sigarilyong “non cancerous” gaya noong 1930s advertising nila. Kaya na change ang legislation dahil di pumayag ang tao na magpaloko. kung gusto mo maging tanga wag mo kaming isama. MAGKANO BAYAD SA IYO?
SunCell Subscriber says:
Hindi ako nangungutya dahil hindi kaya ng iba ang magbayad ng mas mahal para sa unlimited internet.
Kaya lang ako nangungutya dahil reklamo pa kayo ng reklamo at di makuntento. Para kayong mga squatter na nire-relocate na ng gobyerno sa mas maayos na bahay pero ayaw parin lumipat, ayaw kasi mag adjust!
Jp says:
I don’t dislike this FUP. I think it is good to have one.
The only issue that I think most people are complaining about is the fact that with Globe, after LTE or 3G, it goes down throttled to 2G.
So far, I see no false advertising on this part since data use is still unlimited, just slower.
Like what I said, I’m still happy with SMART and SUN, especially because for now, they don’t strictly impose down throttling to 2G kasi even with their reps, after LTE, it will just go down to 3G.
I use an LTE wifi and 3G phone and both haven’t failed.
Again, you get what you paid for. Yes, for postpaid users, it may sound that we should be getting the upperhand but the fact is that, mejo lugi din ang telcos sa atin especially if we stay within our plan amt ksi they invested on the phone na binigay sayo for their service, unlike for prepaid users na ineexpect lang nilang magload ng magload.
In any case, kung hindi naman talaga for work or wala kang pambayad, e d tipid tipid sa data usage.
Kung mahalaga naman sau for work, business, or may pera ka, e di magbayad ka na sa mas “consistent’ na service.
Basta for me, I’m sticking wSmart and Sun. I just use my Globe for casual text and calls.
hantor says:
with regular usage, fb here and some browsing, even with data auto sync 1 GB will take you 2 weeks or even a month. one day, meaning puro downloads yan..20% sa subscribers na gumagawa nyan are affecting 80% of the network, so telcos have the right.
Jay says:
Samsung Video has a service where you can buy and download a whole movie like Netflix or Amazon. Imagine you bought some to watch later on your phone but frustrated to know it was only cut short because of your data cap.
You can’t watch a Blu-Ray movie with the disc and all in your HD phone, can you?
It was a good service offer since you don’t have to leech on other wifi services since you also paid for your own internet plan.
TRD says:
Magpapa Free FB sa prepaid. Tapos postpaid subscribers ang dahilan kung bakit congested ang network?
Repost ko lang yung youtube link sa first page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyuIiG4c4Go
Congestion ang problema dahil kahit hindi na kaya ng network nila kuha pa din sila ng subscribers. Idagdag pa yang Free FB nila. Panuorin nyo muna yung video bago mag react.
SunCell Subscriber says:
Kung free FB promo niyo ang problema, edi sana hindi na inextend yan. Duh, i-compare mo nga yung bandwidth ng 100 subscriber na nagfa-facebook vs. 1 subscriber na nagto-torrent. Abusive users niyo ang kelangan sisihin diyan.
TRD says:
@Suncell Subscriber
bago magreply panuorin mo muna yung video. Dahil hindi na kelangan ng FUP, fair distribution naman nangyayari regardless kung nagddownload o nagsusurf lang.Yung dami ng nka-connect ang problema. malinaw na ba?
john says:
yes kunti lang ang makaka abot ng 1gb per day. kasi di naman talaga makukuha ng subscribers ang inaadvertised ng mga telcos na speed eh. mabagal parin taga ang wireless internet dito sa atin. kaya kayu kapag need niyo taga ng mabilis na internet magpakabit nalang kayu ng DSL. at least abot natin ang speed na inadvertised nila para sa mga DSL connections.
bokoi says:
Reklamo kayo sa NTC. Sabihin nyo bagal mag DL ng torrents nyong sang katutak na pirated movies, etc…tingnan natin ano gawin sayo. hahaha.
Suggest ko lg sa globe, tanggalin ang cap. Walang trottling. Disable din lahat ng torrent downloads. Para legit DLs lahat yung mga maiiwan.
Ano say nyo? Hahaha.
wew says:
ok sakin suggestion mo haha kung sakalking magDDL naman ako ng torrent sa pc ako tas nakadsl para di madalai magwear out ung battery ng cp =)
xXx says:
In fairness to globe, matagal na ang fup. Kahit smart meron din. Ang katotohanan malabo naman talaga na ma reach ang 1gb per day kung gagamitin ang mobile phone the way its data should be used. User din mismo ang may problema -abusado. Hindi po dapat ginagamit ang data ng mobile to download ng hd movies. Hindi ako pro globe. I will leave globe soon pag natapos ang contract ko but because of other reasons, hindi yung pinuputok ng butse ng mga nandito. I use data when im out lang, pag dating office sa wifi ako connected unless walang mga high speed wifis ang mga offices niyo. Lastly, siempre its all about money, business yan eh. You pay for it because of the convenience to use data outside the comfort of your homes and offices, not just the speed. Maglipatan kayo sa smart, may waiver pa na you have to signup for 1.5gb cap tapos bababa din ang speed mo.
bokoi says:
Mga abusadong subscribers, lipat kayo smart at sun para yung maiiwan sa globe, solo yung BW. Wag lang kayo magulat pag nag strictly FUP din si Smart. Lipat na lg kayo ibang bansa nyan… kaso may FUP pa din! Wahahaha. Saan na kayo ngayon?
Phil says:
Sana lang naiexplain nila eto ng maayos bago ka magsign ng contract. Parang bias ka Abe. #GlobeTelecomSucks
GLOBEFUPSUCKS says:
tingnan mo sa pinakailalim ng page na to.. may banner ad ng globe.. #alamna
Globe hater says:
POTANGINA NG GLOBE OK?!??!? First of all, hindi totoo na may cap ung ibang bansa!!!! Lahat nga sila naka unli net dun and VIBER ang pang text nila!!!! POTA!!!! So ngayon, gagawin nanaman nila primitive ang Pilipinas!!! Leche!!! At ang smart!! FYI, sila ang totoong UNLI!!! NO CAPS!!!! Ang nakakainis pa,,, is sobrang false advertising ng globe!!! Wtf with that UNLI NET?!?!? Eh POTANGINA PALA NILA eh!!! Sana di na lang sila nag sabi na unli!!! Leche!!!! Sayang ang postpaid ko pota!!!! LUGI KAYO SA GLOBE AT WAG NA KAYO KUMUWA DTO!!! SWITCH TO SMART!!! At FYI,,, napakabagal ng 2G ok??? Wala ka na magagawa sa 2G!!! PAKING SHIT!!!!! Napaka daya ng globe!!!! ANG SABHININ NILA, kaya sila nag lagay ng cap is di nila kaya ang growing number of subscribers nila!!!! Outdated na ang techonology nila tangina!!!!
Jan says:
Sa mga nagsasabi na bobo ang mga nagrereklamo dahil di nagbabasa ng kontrata, mas bobo kayo dahil di nyo alam na ang CONTRACT OF ADHESION tulad ng sa Globe ay strictly construed against the one outlining the terms. Hala sige Google nyo mga bobo!
sham says:
Ano nga ang pinuputok ng butsi ni sun cellular? bakit kasi naka unli data plan gagawing hot spot ang phone. Tama lang na magkaroon ng FUP pero sana tama din ang price. 999 for 3GB sana ang plan nila, not unli. If they want unli, raise the plan to plan 8000.
Neil says:
Generally, there’s no problem implementing new updates as long as they inform their customers. DO NOT release any changes on the customer’s contract. Give us options how can we handle and face your new updates. The telcos must also identify the benefits for prepaid and postpaid customers.
This one is a good article. Please share it: http://bluecyan0601.tumblr.com/post/75474718249/whats-the-real-deal-on-globes-fair-usage-policy-fup
Here's My Gripe says:
Ok, Globe now has throttling. Ok, they want to start throttling after 1GB/day or 3GB/month. I will not even contest their claim that only 3% will be affected. I will give them that. In return I want to be able to change my plan from unlimited data to consumable especially since they have me under contract. Knowing this change in their policy, I want to have control on how I spend the money I pay them on regular basis month after month. Their screwing unlidata postpaid subscribers over. Forcing us to be limited with the service we get in a policy change that is one sided, benefitting only Globe.
Heck, if I buy a new prepaid sim everyday and load it with the minimum amount to have one day’s worth of supersurf, I get 24 GB total spending only 2400 pesos, maybe even less. That’s 100 pesos per gigabyte versus the 300 pesos per GB I now get under my post paid contract. I signed up for the postpaid plan under contract because it was supposed to give me better value for my money. People sign up for unlidata for one reason alone, if Globe unilaterally makes that reason moot, Globe should provide the same subscribers the option to choose where their money will be better used.
All these bloggers who insist that Globe’s FUP for customers under contract is actually “fair” are either not thinking things through or really are just paid lackies.
Smokescreen says:
That is actually a good point. Did you actually sign an FUP contract? If not, though you can’t compel Globe to disregard their policies….you can however declare the contract voidable. Undel Laws on Contracts, once a party implements a change in policy that critically changes how a contract is implemented and at the same time is a point of contention for the other party…..then you can have it invalidated because it is voidable. Specially if such change in policy would have altered your decision in signing the contract.
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