Globe breaks silence, explains Fair Usage Policy

FUP= Fuck U Policy! #CAPisCRAP

No matter how much sugarcoating and endless explanation they do, it is still bottomline greed. They enforce the FUP to force and instill to their subscribers that we are not paying enough. They want to create the need to avail of higher caps on higher plans. This is just a premise, give it a little time and they will introduce a new postpaid plain, higher data cap but ridiculously expensive. I say we boycott these mofos now and show them who’s boss.

Lol at that 2g infographic. Di.nga ako makakuha ng feeds sa fb/twitter/waze/mmda app and sa email ko on their 2g network. Simple lang yan lets inform future users na stay away from globe. I have dine it by sharing it to my friends. The option is to live more. Sana lang hindi din mag ganito ang smart.

sana lang kasi padamihin nila ang LTE towers nila para yung mga 4G phones di kumokonek sa 3G network. sasabihin na congested ang 3G network syempre pati ang naka LTE phones dun din naka connect. and 3GB per month. di enough yun. sa laki ng files ngayon kahit pic sa FB ilang bytes na ba?

Fuck you Globe and whoever will defend them!!!! Fuck Globe!!! #globeisnowshit

BTW Yuga/Abe, since you are one of the top tech bloggers na pwedeng maka influence sa mga tao, you should let them now na ganito ang globe, the future subs should know na 3gb monthly allowance lang and pag lampas ka na dun you will be kicked out to their unusable 2g network. Unlimited should be removed on their marketing sales. Pero since isa ang globe sa mga sponsors mo(sana hindi) sana kampihan mo yung mga readers ng blog mo.

Ganito na lang, wag na lang tawagin unlimited ang hindi unlimited kung di namantalaga. No problem sa data cap kahit prepaid basta wag lang lokohin customers. Data cap or wala mabagal pa rin naman 3g nila eh

What they don’t get is you could easily get to the limit even with casual activity. Software updates, app updates, online radio, watching Youtube videos. Even purchasing and downloading content (music and video) from wherever. You subscribed to unlimited internet exactly for these purposes. So kung hindi mo naman magamit this way, huwag na lang.

What good is super fast speed if you can’t maximize it? If they intend na gamitin ko lang siya for email and other casual purposes, it doesn’t matter if I have LTE or a slower connection (but still generally good speed) as a 10 KB email would be sent without noticeable time difference (technically, may difference, but in actual usage, they’d all be sent “instantly”).

Business caring about money? Who knew?

Data is unlimited. It is lte that is limited. Once you breach you still have access to the net but slower. I know that because i can easily consume 10gb per day. I dont know about the 30gb cap per month. Thats sounds a but too generous that i suspect thats high even for dsl packages.

But really, are they mad? P1,000 per month for 3GB? Ridiculous.

3gb per month?

1gb per day ok pa…s

lol globe pag naka2G ako d nako makapagfb,twitter o email. tska sabihin na naten na totoo sinasabi nyu na 3% lng ang umaabot ng 1gb/day or 3gb/month pero ang dahilan eh karamihan ng mga unlidata plan eh tinitipid na lng ung 1GB/3GB na hanggat maaari eh hindi gumamit ng mobile internet. subukan nyung gawing walang capping ng isang buwan tignan naten kung gaano karaming users ang mageexceed jan.experiment lng.

How come they call it Fair Use when its unfair to us.

Can somebody create a facebook group regarding this issue? So that we could communicate better and make this issue bigger so that the government would address this fast.

Di na ko makapag torrent t****a mo globe

payag ako sa ganyang sistema basta plan 999 free note 3 for 24months!

now this is what i call a true tech blogger’s site.. unbiased journalism.. what say you yugatech?

http://www.unbox.ph/editorials/editorial-ntc-should-set-standards-for-the-use-of-unlimited-by-telcos-in-their-ads/

Please be clear if it is Gb or GB…(Gb) Gigabit or (GB) Gigabyte…

Oh mY!!! 2G as In 2G !!!! D man lng ba 3G !!!

whatda…yung subscription ko 4G pero never ko pa nga na-experience ang 4G sa connection ko tapos gagawin pang 2G?

Fup is just one way for the company to get away with consumers money while providing sub par service. Sure 3gb is way more than enough for browsing, streaming, and emails but how about those who are paying a premium whose main purpose of internet use are downloading LEGIT digital copies of games, movies and software? And games these days are around 12gb and up for mainstream ones.

Fair usage policy? D ppol hav paid for unlimited service but ur giving them limited MB/GB of data? Very ironic… Galing pa naman mga tv ads nila, pero yung serbisyo.. BS. Smart users are very crowded in numbers, i think, pero wala pa akong naririnig na ganyan sa kanila.. Useless alibi, Globe. You can’t keep up with your rival’s network.

utter bull-sh-*t!

bs talaga yang unlimited plan na yan tapos may ca.p. Di aabot sa sampung high def videos mapanuod mo sa YouTube e ubos na. Dapat Limited ang tawag jan. Di siguro nakakaintindi ng english ang tagaglobe

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Just for transparency, as it seems both globe and smart are using the same global economic model and alot of people here are bashing why our telcos are implementing caps but other countries are not. fyi, other countries in asia, as well in the us and canada already have data cap:
for better understanding, this is the CURRENT FUP for wireless carries in the US :

Verizon Fair Use Policy :
Plan Details $45 Data Allowance 250 MB /Data Overage $15/250 MB Voice & Text Allowance Unlimited Unlimited
Plan Details $60 Data Allowance 1 GB /Data Overage $15/500 MB Voice & Text Allowance Unlimited Unlimited

Sprint Fair Use Policy :
Plan Details $79.99 Data Allowance 12GB Data Overage $0.05/1MB
Plan Details $49.99 Data Allowance 6GB Data Overage $0.05/1MB
Plan Details $34.99 Data Allowance 3GB Data Overage $0.05/1MB

AT&T Fair Use Policy
Plan Details $14.99 Data Allowance 250 Data Overage $14.99/250MB
Plan Details $30.00 Data Allowance 3GB Data Overage $10/1GB
Plan Details $50.00 Data Allowance 8GB Data Overage $10/1GB

T Mobile Fair Use Policy :
However much you use the internet, you’ll never get charged extra
We’re the only operator to offer you a fixed price for browsing and emailing on your mobile broadband connection with no limits and no extra charges.
Your plan will come with an allowance which varies depending on the plan that you select however we will not charge you if you go over your allowance. If they go over their allowance we will not charge any extra or prevent them from using the internet however we may restrict their usage on downloads and streaming.
If you’ve bought a tablet, iPad or iPad 2 on a pay monthly plan, you’ll get 1GB of data to use a month. But, great news for night owls; you’ll also get an extra 1GB ‘quiet time’ allowance to use between midnight and 10a.m.

** this is the current pricing plan and data allowances for each mobile carrier in the US.

if we will be looking into the price and plan ranges in the us; i think what globe and smart currently implementing is atleast fair and can still be considered “unlimited”. However, as what others pointed out, they do need to improve speed consistency and reliability; as well as lte distribution across the country.

one main focal point is the fact that once we reach the specific cap, the speeds are throttled and bottle-necked: it is neither stop nor are we charge overages for going beyond the existing data caps.
for heavy user, there is always dsl and t1 line. mobile data was never meant to replace a hard line internet connection.

Fyi: May 2 common 2G connection

“G” sa cellphone nyo meaning GPRS
Max speed is 50kbps

“E” sa cellphone nyo meaning EDGE
Max speed is 250kbps

Take note max speed yan! Kelan sila nagbigay ng max speed per subscriber? Wala!

Mga DSL ngayon example PLDT 999 = 3Mbps (thats 3000kbps).. Pinaka mabagal na na offer ng PLDT dati sa DSL nila nung sina unang panahon pa eh
384kbps, at yes mabagal yan, kaya common na ngayon 3mbps pataas.

Ngayon madame na tayong pwwde gawin sa smartphone, mag stream ng music, video, save sa cloud account, etc na IMO 1mbps mabagal pa nga!

Sa youtube HD video, 5Mbps speed para sa 1080p resolution na video, nag bubuffer pa minsan na isa lang ang user na gumagamit nyan!

Magbebenta kau ng advance smartphone na may Hd screen at pwede mag tether then i 2G nyo connection! Kung hndi ba naman kau mga sira ulo!

Plus 3GB of data ubos agad yan sa videostreaming or music streaming!

Unli-rice pero maximum ng 2 cups lng ang extra!

I don’t really get why people are going nuts about this.

I work as a writer and stylist. I’m also a blogger in between. With the nature of my work, i am online most of the time, usually on the go. I tether internet from my iPhone to my laptop, and sometimes, even to my iPad simultaneously.

It’s just that i don’t see the reason why these other so-called “on-the-go” people would need to freaking download torrents, watch 1080p videos using your mobile phone’s internet on a regular basis. Is it a matter of life and death na hindi ka makapag antay to download your pirated software/movies/music when you get home using your home connection?

I admit, there are times na i watch youtube videos on 1080p using tethered internet to my computer for work stuff, pero i don’t need to it on a daily basis.

And lastly, i don’t see anything wrong with posts above comparing our telco internet charges from other telcos in different countries. Pag kinompare mo, ung Php 999/month is just roughly $24.

With T-mobile USA, $20 (Php ~850) gets you 500mb of monthly internet, $30 (Php ~1320) for 2.5GB a month and so on.

And when Globe or Smart said UNLIMITED, it’s true. You get UNLIMITED SURFING. Hindi nga lang UNLIMITED SURFING on 3G/4G/LTE speeds.

@TRD so you want to talk about economics na? Let’s not take this issue elsewhere. My point is simple. Mobile data fees in our country is actually affordable na. What’s wrong is ung mga taong nag aabuse ng service. If they wanna use more data, then they should pay for it.

Unless it’s like work stuff, or something important, then by all means download big ass files. Pero if it’s just for pirated movies/music/software or whatever, then i don’t see why it can’t wait sa bahay–well unless you can’t afford getting a separate DSL home internet.

FUP = anti-Harvester!!!

I’m not sure why theyre also implementing this FUP on home DSL subscribers. I’ve been a DSL user and our account started 2008 i think…hindi nila malagyan ng FUP ung account ko cause of that reason. Kaso…i’m paying 2350 every month for 3mbps. while sa pldt, they have 3 mbps for 1k only. now, i want to shift to pldt kaso hindi ba kaya nila lalagyan ng FUP rin to? i saw in their contract yung almost the same idea ng FUP, if they find you abusing the connection then possible na hindi ka nila inform and just do anything to your connection either disconnect you or change your speed. Meron po ba rito na PLDT DSL user? i really want to shift kasi ang mahal na ng binabayaran ko tpos anliit pa ng speed ko. Wala po ba talagang FUP ang PLDT? kahit na magdownload ako ng 10gb per day? thanks!

GAGO ba yang globe? 2G speed? mas mabagal pa yan sa dialup dati, pati 3G nga nahihirapan na mag load minsan ng notifications at messages ng FB! 2G pa kaya? mas okay pa mag DSL connections. Ganito lang kasi yan kahit dumadami subscribers niyo, sana wag ilipat ung burden sa mga customers niyo, dapat kayo mag hanap ng way para ma improve yung mga system or hardwares niyo, tangina kung makapatong nga kayo sa bill namin. Di niyo maayos sistema niyo!

nakakatawa na sa stats nila ng pwede mong magawa e parang napakarami mo talagang pwedeng gawin. nung sinabi nilang unli, di nila maaalis sa subscribers na isipin na magagawa nila ang mga sumusunod.

*dl ng torrent – 1 movie pa lang na hd quality, lagpas 1gb na. pano na kung series ang i-ddl

*youtube – dapat 360 ang piliin sa quality kung gusto mong makita yung mukha ng papanoorin mo.

*facebook – maghapon naka log-in

*instagram – kung mahilig naman sa selfie

*online games – maghapon din kung gamer talaga

ilan pa lang yan sa mga gustong gawin ng subscribers kaya nag-unli plan sila. pwede ding sinasabay ang dl sa kung anoman ang gusto pa nilang gawin.

pero sa haba haba man ng mga paliwanagan. isa lang din naman ang babagsakan.

if you said unli… make sure it’s unli.

Here’s how it’s commonly done in other places:

“Internet service providers commonly apply a cap when a channel intended to be shared by many users becomes overloaded, or may be overloaded, by a few users.”

The above applies to satellite and cable internet (and similar technology) where both the core network and the access network are shared by numerous users.

Think of it as speed bumps placed in roads which are shared by most vehicles to “pace” traffic and avoid congestion in certain bottlenecks. Overall it benefits everyone.

In DSL, the core network is shared but the access network is not. We each have our own assigned “lane” which we can maximize. That is the promised rate (e.g. 1Gbps). You go below that and still no one gets your bandwidth. So the only party that benefits is Globe because by limiting reach user on the access network, they can oversubscribe the core network. More $$$ for Globe!

Of course they can argue that we will benefit from the increased sharing of the core network. But that defeats the purpose why DSL is faster and better than cable! It just takes us back to the problem which we solved with newer technology. Unless the regulators step in to protect consumers and say, “Hey! You invested this much but promised this quality of service in return. Otherwise we’ll give your franchise to someone else. ” Telcos will abuse.

Sana ma faceout nalang yung mga 2g receiver sa mga phone para wla na magawa ung mga telco hahaha

kung maka-FUP itong si Globe akala mo ang ganda-ganda ng equipment nila. pinagmamalaki ang “switching to 2G speed” na wala nmn ako masagap na data.
sinsabi nila 3% subscribers lang lumalagpas sa 1GB, eh kasi mostly ng Globe subscribers are hindi naka-data plan so pano nga nmn nila magagamit yung 1GB?
~ palusot.

The problem is they can’t improve their infrastructure so they decided to cap their users. Our telco providers are really dumb & greedy!

so dapat di na UNLIMITED DATA plan na tawag sa plan ko… deceiving na yan like IPHONE FOREVER plan na co-terminus naman

97% daw ng globe user eh hindi nakaka exceed ng 1GB per day. Anong globe user ba to? Overall kasama yung prepaid o yung postpaid lang? Kung overall malamang 97% kasi sa prepaid 800mb/day lang ang cap lol. Baluktot ang rason ng globe

For the price of 999/month, enough na yang 3GB/month. Wag na mag DL ng movies, mp3, and other copyrighted stuff online.

3gig/ per month is actually enough for mobile browsing. Dito sa singapore naka cap ang mga mobile plan and i dont usually reach my cap na 3gig. Naka on 3g ko 12 hrs a day and also use it for work when i am on a dispatch and need connection for my laptop. dito din mabilis ang mobile internet. mga nagrereklamo is yung gumagamit ng mobile internet for torrenting or downloading huge files. Dapat sa bahay nyo yan gngwa or via wifi. youtube,browsing and streaming ok na ang 3gig.

May ibang hindi makagets nung infographic na yan. May iba ring hindi maka differentiate ng Data sa Speed/bandwidth. Oo, unlidata, pero hindi unlispeed, kaya nga kapag sumobra ka sa cap, hindi ka nila puputulan ng data, yung speed lang and babawasan nila. Yung term na “fair usage”, medyo self explanatory yun. madalas akala niyo na sobrang daming nagdodownload ng mga sobrang laking files, mga bakaw kumbaga. May ibang mga tao rin, gaya ko, na ginagamit lang ang data plan for emails, FB, konting vid and stuff. Kasi yung mga heavy data usage ko sa DSL. Tignan niyo narin yung price kumpara sa data na ginagamit niyo. I consider niyo narin yung mga “bumubutas” ng system ng globe, yung mga hacker na hindi nagbabayad na masmalakas pa gumamit ng data kesa sa mga nagbabayad.

*Maraming magagalit sa comment ko, pero respeto nalang. May kanya kanya tayong opinyon.

i understand you GLOBE but the thing is, we expect UNLIMITED data usage, and yes i am also heavy data user i always download movies via torrent. but its okay because i pay for it, that is also what i saw in your advertisement it says UNLIMITED so why not use it. this is not our problem you should not put UNLIMITED in the first place that’s a sample of false advertisement. sorry for the word, this is based only on my understanding.

It looks like people are getting confused on what “unlimited” means. Technically you are getting unlimited data, just that “unlimited” refers to the *quantity* (and not quality/speed) of data access. Sure it’s slowed down after 1.5(Smart) or 3GB (Globe), but you’re not charged for excess data should you go over. To put it in perspective: AT&T in the US gives you only 2GB of data per month, if you go over that you’re charged $10 per GB in excess of 2GB. T-Mobile US meanwhile gives 2.5GB of full speed data and slowed down afterwards without any additional charge, unless you are on their highest $70 (~PhP3000) per month plan which has no limits of any kind.

To make things straight and easier to understand, data is unlimited but only on 2G (EDGE) since LTE (4G) and 3G have a combined threshold of 1GB/day or 3GB/month. I do not have anything against the policy however my only concern is why Globe specifically advertised that they will be providing unlimited LTE service to their subscribers. This could be their marketing strategy to attract more customers however what they did is completely deceiving. They just committed marketing fraud.

im pretty sure it is more than just 3%. me and most of my friends get capped just by using youtube alone.

Hayz talaga ang Globe. “ensures that EVERYONE enjoys quality browsing experience” daw… e di na nga ako nage-enjoy e… pano naging EVERYONE yan???

They want you to use their call and text services instead of using data to do voice calls.

With the rise of wechat, viber, and the likes nag kaka loss sila sa earning from voice calls.

just saying .