Power Saver Max on Power Usage

Good afternoon, i saw the demo at handyman regarding powersaver. I have a customer and he wanted to use this at his resorts. The problem is do we need to unplug this gadget when the power is supplied by a generator set. This happen only when the electric power is no available or brown out.If it is ok, we can order from 56 pcs of powersaver.

Florante Bautista
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we cannot outright say its a scam..here’s why:

the power saver works on the principle of power factor correction. that power triangle mentioned above is a correct representation of 3 kinds of power in a power system, however Franz failed to consider and site that as the power factor of any electrical system becomes unity of equal to 1 (which in the case of the power saver is its function, to make the power factor of our resedencial or commercial electrical system becomes unity) the current drawns by the circuit is reduced. when the current is reduced then the system losses of the circuit is reduced and the savings on your bill is directly proportional to this loss reduction. One thing that we should understand about this devices is that “they are not intended to alter or reduced the power being drawn by our loads or appliances, because in the first place it is impossible to do, but rather they are intended to reduce the system losses of our sestem”

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I think you’re either too skeptic or you’re just doing it wrong. LOL

Anyway, I’m not one to argue but lemme share some of what we’ve had so far..

House description:
3 floors
5 toilets and bath

Appliances/stuff that consumes the most electricity (I think):
4 box type aircon *for all the rooms*
1 split type aircon *for the 1st floor/sala etc*
3 industrial fans
1 2-door er.. ref, lol
2 laptops
1 desktop
2 big LCD tellies for the master’s bedroom and the sala on the 3rd floor
2 normal/CRT TVs for the other 2 rooms

**other stuff such as the microwave, wifis/modems, aquarium, lights etc would be left out as they’re normally used but well.. basta lang, I want them left out. LOL

***Sorry, no charts or whatever kasi I’m not good with Excel or whatever, hehehe.

Normal bill’s 9-12k. Depending on the season — and yes, it’s higher on the summers — hence, we try to not be here as much as possible on summers, LOL.

For 4 months now we’ve been using this power-saving thingy.. and I guess it’s just working ok. It’s not too impressive but it’s not a disappointment, either.

First month with the thing has kept our bill at 10k, coming from a 10k from the previous month, too. It’s fine. We gave it a chance. 2nd month, our bill went down to almost well.. less than 300-500Php. Quite pathetic, I tell you. But hey, it does seem to be doing its job, eh? So my parents thought it’s probably just not able to keep up with the house seeing that it’s all alone and we have the typical townhouse. So my mom went to Ace and was gonna purchase another one — when she saw it was on sale! 50% off, baby! Hell, yeah!

So she got 2 more! She was planning on putting one per floor but the salesman gave her tips. Tips we thought sounded stupid at first.. but what the heck, right? We were already using a device that was ridiculously expensive so why not “follow” the proper usage, eh?

Apparently, the man from Ace told my mom she was to plug it near the main switchboard (or whatever it’s called, lol). So that’s one. And because we had 2 new ones, she was advised to plug them in outlets where they would be alone and won’t be shared with other appliances. So an outlet with 2.. uhm.. outlets? haha, whatever, just 1 power saver should be plugged in it and no other appliances should be plugged in the same spot. Upon hearing these tips, my mom immediately rang and told my brother to transfer the thing to the kitchen where the main switch was hidden in one of the cupboards — insisted he did this asap!

Long story short, she took the man’s advise and 2 months later.. we’re doing a good 7-7.5k/mo bill (for 2 months now), same appliance and electricity usage. No “don’t turn it on” nor “turn the damned thing off” etc. At least that’s what’s happening now. It may have something to do with the fact that it isn’t as hot as it was a month ago and that it’s started raining.. or it could really be the power-saving thingy. We even forgot we had them until my mother saw the bill and almost cried from happiness.. whatever it was, we’ll keep them plugged in for now. And I’ll probably remember to update you guys or let you know about our future bills.. but for now, I’m quite fine with the fact that we have them. Working or not.. we’ll find out soon with the upcoming bills. :D

Good day everyone, smile and just be positive!

I’m not an expert but when i saw the drop in the digital watt meter when the device was plugged in, I think it works. basically, lower wattage means lower rates,right? but still this does not prove that it works as it is advertised. the problem with the TS here was that he does not have a base or control setup to exactly arrive at a solid conclusion. He had too many variables affecting his observations. Whatever he comes up with will always be subject to skepticism. So until someone makes a controlled experiment, this issue will never be answered.Anyways, here’s what i learned so far… but dont take my word for it:

“Power Savers are synchronous condensers. Most motor loads in our house are inductive loads. The power factor of inductive loads of appliances like air conditioners, fans, mixers, refrigerators is lagging and synchronous condensers supply a reactive power factor that help nullify the effect and thereby reduce electricity consumption. However, these condensers won’t work with resistive loads of appliances like heaters, geysers, irons, bulbs etc.

Basically the power saver works by stabilizing the voltage that the appliances use and thus saves between 10 and 20 percent energy costs (though some claim even as much as 40% reduction).”

Power Savers do not work on residential areas since MERALCO charges by KILOWATTS.

Let me explain this further.

In Electrical Engineering under POWER ENGINEERING, there are three kinds of POWER.

1. Real Power or WATTS
2. Reactive Power
3. Apparent Power

We can use this analogy for the 3 kinds of POWER.

In a RIGHT TRIANGLE, the LEG parallel to the X axis is the REAL POWER or WATTS. The LEG perpendicular to the X axis is the REACTIVE POWER.

Their HYPOTHENUS is the APPARENT POWER.

What POWER SAVERS do is reduce the REACTIVE POWER so that the HYPOTHENUS is nearly equal to the the REAL POWER.

MERALCO gives discounts to consumers having equal APPARENT POWER and REAL POWER or they call it POWER FACTOR.

POWER FACTOR = REAL POWER / APPARENT POWER

The nearer the POWER FACTOR to 1, the higher is your discount.

Unfortunately, you are only eligible for DISCOUNTS if you consume massive amounts of electricity or in short, you must be FACTORY PLANT.

These devices have no effect whatsoever in your electric bill since they only reduce REACTIVE POWER and not REAL POWER/WATTS.

In short, these devices are scams!

@Eason – I think the tendency is that a person with this gadget installed would not think of saving electricity. He’ll probably use aircon more often and longer because the gadget will help him out anyway. False sense of security, ika nga. They’ll end up with a higher electrical bill in the long run.

I think di rin accurate, kasi in terms of technology the new ones are more technology earth friendly. So if you change your appliances there will be a change of the daily usage of the electricity.

But in my personal opinion, those power savers just decrease the voltage of the power outlets. Some say it destroys some appliances due to that it may cause iregular power distribution in your home.

I agree that thpse power savers just make you head have a mindset to save power. ^_^

I still think that the best way to save on electricity bills is to generate your own electricity via alternative energy sources. Not to power your entire household, at least at present, but some portions of it, like the lights or lighting.