Last week, we asked readers if they also think Nokia got the short hand of the deal when Microsoft announced Windows Phone 8, leaving all existing WP7 handsets cold with no promise of a WP8 update.
The folks from Nokia Philippines emailed earlier today to chime in on the discussion and offered a few interesting points.
But before that, let me share with you the reasons why WP8 may not really make sense with older Windows Phone 7 handsets. The gist of it all is that majority of WP8 features that are introduced doesn’t really fit into the current hardware of most, if not all, WP7 phones.
Let’s run thru them one by one:
Windows Phone 8 was developed from the ground up and is totally different from how Microsoft originally developed WP7. WP8’s code-base much closer to Windows 8 RT (the OS for ARM-based tablets) than to WP7.
Nikka Abes of Nokia Philippines emailed us and pointed out a few more developments under the Nokia Lumia line:
◠Lumia smartphones are not doomed. They worked perfectly before the summit, they’re still working perfectly today, and they will continue to do so tomorrow – and become even better with new features.
â— All Lumia smartphones will continue to enjoy updates, new apps and features for many weeks and months to come. Let’s list just a few things:
o Software updates for the Lumia 800 and Lumia 710 begin this week, bringing new features like WiFi tethering and Flip-to-Silence and media content streaming.
o In July, the full Lumia range will get exciting new features like Camera Extras and Contact Sharing. Camera Extras is brilliant and beautiful, especially with features like Smart Group shot and Action Shot.
o In the third quarter, new games from Zynga like Draw Something and Words with Friends will be available in Marketplace for all Lumia owners.
o Let’s not forget that in May, we announced a number of new and exclusive application partnerships including the PGA Tour App, EA, Groupon, Tripdots, PayPal, Time Magazine, Newsweek and Box – applications from all these partners will also be available for Lumia smartphones, if they’re not there already.
o There are now 100,000 apps in the Marketplace available for Lumia owners – giving people so much to choose from.
o Updates to the free Location features on our devices: Drive, Maps, Transport, City Lens Beta and Pulse, all of which make Lumia smartphones unbeatable when you compare them with competitor smartphones.
o The new Windows Phone start screen, featuring 3 new tile sizes
The WindowsTeamBlog.com shared this video of the Windows Phone 7.8 demo running on a Lumia 900:
Now that’s something to look forward to.
Nevertheless, we cannot deny that the no-WP8-upgrade-to-all-WP7-handsets news is still a bit of a downer.
{source: gsmarena, windowsteamblog}
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TotallyNuts says:
No matter what version they are. Windows Metro or Tile interface is very monotonous, boring, backward, no sense of style, blocky, out of style, no good, no glamour interface. I wouldn’t but cellphone with OS like that, not even for million of years…
Saripsa says:
@Totallynuts, I’m glad not all human beings are like you. It was designed to be simple so you don’t have to tinker with your phone most of the time and focus on the things that matter most unlike the bloated Android shit which is a copy cat of iOS. Apple is okay but with no Steve Jobs it will not be the same company.
Duds says:
That’s how technology goes. Everyone should get used to this by now. For sure, Windows is already working for WP9 by now.
dave House says:
I am real fan of Microsoft and Nokia because, they prove to all users they can develope a reliable, durable and very great performance product to sustain the needs of the users. that’s why i will always fan of Nokia.
heartless says:
Pare pareho lang naman yang mga Brand na yan, like android phone, not all android phone are getting ICS update, not all iOS device will get the latest iOS. Same as windows phone they will not get it though.
Basta ako masaya ako sa performance ng lumia ko.
I remember when i use android phone (SGS2 and SGSL)
at first mabilis sila then after a month of use ayun bumagal then issue ko ang battery life so ang ending flash ng flash ng Rom kung ano ang stable at makakapag patagal ng battery even yung sa performance (Kahit nga pag type ng message me lag eh)
Pero sa Lumia ayun na solusyunan lahat ng hinahanap ko…
But I’m not saying na mas better ang Lumia sa Android, still ang gusto ko pa din sa 2 eh android OS dahil sa wide selection of App, Games etc. but cellphone ang ginagamit ko eh which is pantawag and text.
Kung tablet pa to i’ll choose Android or iOS
Jerwin J. Paglicawan says:
I have Nokia Lumia 610 and I regret purchasing the phone. It appears that the previous Windows mobile OS is better than the WP7. I’m a music lover and I don’t see any reason why the phone doesn’t have equalizer or sound enhancement?
Suplado says:
i don’t understand why non-WP users are giving so much hate about this issue. parang mas affected pa sila. don’t buy WP kung ayaw nyo. wala namang pumipilit. sabi nga nung isang nagpost dito: “Those updates don’t matter as long as I’m satisfied with the way I use these gadgets.”
Good Luck says:
Good luck with that…
Carl Bytes says:
Microsoft still disappointed WP7.5 users. They should make WP8 apps backward compatible. I think developers will prefer releasing WP8 only apps than WP7.x apps.
Kawawa naman bumile ng mga mga Lumia 800 / 900, Titan II.
Obob says:
>they should make WP8 apps backward compatible. I >think developers will prefer releasing WP8 only >apps than WP7.x apps.
Idiot!
r3JAM says:
And they claim that Beta Testing was over. LoL!
Andre says:
Ah, but the problem with not being able to upgrade to WP8 is that your WP7.5/7.8 handset won’t be able to run software for WP8.
In contrast to iOS, for example…most software still run on iPhone 3GS. Kahit walang front facing camera, kahit luma na…at least meron pa rin.
WP8 is a clean break from WP7. Which means if you’re a developer you have to choose whether to target WP8 or WP7 (for compatibility with older handsets). I don’t think anybody will really choose to target WP7, given that the new dev tools coming from Microsoft will be targeting WP8. WP7 will become an obsolete platform, no doubt.
Malas ko pa naman, bumili ako ng WP7 handset :( should’ve gone Android or iOS. Thank you, Microsoft!
pabs says:
I love cellphones, before my lumia 800, the last nokia I had was an N95. When apple came out with iphone, I waited until iphone 4(globe postpaid), last year I also bought a samsung galaxy note(smart postpaid)and just last month this lumia 800. I’m pretty covered with all mobile OS, they’re all awesome. As of now all I can say is that the lumia is my top phone. it runs perfect and runs toe to toe with my iphone 4. My note replaced my laptop already. Those updates don’t matter as long as I’m satisfied with the way I use these gadgets.
emansky says:
what’s the fuzz about a new hardware not getting the update.. other phones dont get the same treatment. The heck, all android phones dont still have the latest version. it’s just how mobile technology is. you buy a new phone today but it wont be in a week or less. new things are coming every day. at least people should be happy since nokia is not leaving the lumia line in the dark. i mean all these updates/features are really nice. for me yung maps pa nga lang panalo na. Sir Abe’s list are really good points. most of the features on WP8 requires new hardware at that’s that. A software with the best feature would be useless with the hardware it requires.
is pa lumia is still an awesome phone. no lags no jitters. it just works for me.
Raffy says:
Bakit ito naging issue? I’m sure Nokia will introduce new handsets under the Lumia line.. Lumia 920, 950, 999, or 1000… to carry Windows Phone 8 OS.
alam naman natin kung ano ang predecessor ng Lumia, which is Nokia N9 ba?
If you are planning of buying a Windows Phone, wait nalang for the new Nokia Phones or other phones like HTC and Huawei?
'em says:
If I have money to spend today, I’d rather save it and spend it later on a Win 8 phone. Hehe
showbiz says:
I second on this. :-)
aw says:
no way ppl will buy lumia 900. win phone 7.8 is merely a skin. yung added features nya hindi naman masyado useful dito satin sa Pinas. its a flagship phone that will become obsolete months from now. panget pa multimedia features ng win phone, hindi pwd pang pmp mp4 lang kaya i play. tapos wala pang app ng kagaya ng sa android kahit ano vid/audio files kaya. win phone is a sham
wag na kayo bili ng nokia, for 28k bili na lang kayo ng galaxy note, one x, sony ion, sgs 2 or 3 etc madami pag pipilian for that price
Andre says:
Excellent spin by Nokia ;)
Fact remains that your spanking-new Nokia Lumia 900 will not be able to run new Windows Phone 8 software when they come out. It would have been much better if Microsoft allowed current phones to upgrade to WP8 even though they won’t have access to those new hardware-based features; at least they would still be able to run WP8 software if that was the case.
Robby says:
I still love my Nokia Lumia 610. And I will love it more when WP7.8 comes. I will upgrade to WP8 after 1 year though.
Raffy says:
Buti nga ang Microsoft honest sa OS updates eh. They will make two versions of Windows Phone OS, one is 7.8 for old phones and 8.0 for new phones. There will be similarities pero dahil sa hardware meron din differences. Kaya magkaiba yung OS versions.
Eh ang Apple? Remember when they introduced iOS 5, tapos hindi pala kasama si Siri sa iPhone 4 and older, sa iPhone 4S lang. Some will happen when they would launch iOS 6, it will not be the same across all iDevices.
khalil says:
mag isip ka nga kung sinali ng Apple si Siri sa update ng iOS 5 sa iPhone 4 e wala nang bibili ng 4S kc mkukuha lang pla sa update…..tanga tanga
dell says:
i still like my nokia phones =)..simple and reliable as always =)
Paolo says:
We want Xbox Live supported in the Philippines! Unless they could bring the good games available on the marketplace
Ren says:
create a new live acct with U.S. location, works in my HTC Radar.
'em says:
Yeah we want XBox Live in the Philippines! Wala naman sakin problema kung hanggang 7.8 update ang Lumia ko. Haha, ang mahlaga enjoy ako ngayon dito at hindi ako bored sa total experience.
wreek88 says:
Nokia Lumia too early to become obsolete. Lumia 900 is selling now for only 22k down from 29k few weeks back.
Kulam says:
Reference please wreek88. am buying my Dad a Lumia 900 very soon.
rhk111 says:
Damage control by Nokia Philippines. But whatever they do, it won’t change the fact that their Lumnia phones are doomed to mediocrity. Its been months now since the phone was launched, and Nokia’s Smartphone share just keeps dropping …
Gino B. says:
I love my Nokia Lumia 800, but I’m sour about the fact that Mix Radio is not available (although I know how to make it so, but I won’t bother).
One more thing, they are saying the Tango update will be available (tomorrow) June 27, 2012.
Finally, they keep saying that Nokia will/might declare bankruptcy soon, one major reason why I bought the Lumia 800…I’m not preparing the glass case in case they do, another addition to my NES, Atari, betamax, Akai casette player, etc. lol.
Faust says:
i think they’re dissed by nokia? O_O
otwist says:
RIP Nokia…
rafael says:
These updates will also be available to the rest of WP7 handsets, right? Like the HTC HD7 or Titan? :)
chinitoguy says:
Yeah its a bit of a downer but its not an issue for me really. I own a Nokia Lumia 610 and I am waiting for Windows Phone 7.8 update to be available. Since all of us change phones eventually (on my case, every year) I will be replacing my old Lumia with a new Windows Phone 8 device next year.
I have so much faith in Microsoft. I think they can pull this off beautifully. Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 RT will be a hit. Once these devices are available I will really buy one.