BibViz, an online guide to all of Bible’s contradictions

“Indeed, you did not claim that
‘God does not exist” but you
ask for proof over something
which science cannot prove
just like FAITH or TRUST.”

again, i’m not limiting you to science. Prove it anywhere you like as long as it is reasonable.

Faith can be felt and therefore demonstrable (especially if you have a wife hehe). As for trust, there are scientific studies that link trust to a molecule that is secreted from the posterior pituitary gland called oxytocin.

@wew, parang nahugot ko sa utak ko, nung nag-aaral pa ako ng pharmacology na may mga neurotransmitters called, dopamine, norephinephrine, serotonin which are responsible for mood regulation such as happiness and depression.

I was able to
wake up from “MY” infantile
delusion (false belief).

Please read my wordings carefully. The key word is ‘my’ because I am limiting it to myself. And by delusion, I mean ‘false belief’ that’s why I have included ‘false belief’ parenthetically. It has nothing to do with mental disorders. I’m apologizing, however, if such word offends you guys.

As to your links, it’s just the prime mover argument. The latest version of which is the cosmological argument whose minor premise (the universe began to exist) is problematic because we know how volatile cosmological theories are.

And if there is really a ‘force’ or god if you want, where is the proof that that force or god is the god of the bible?

@wew,
your comment implies that god is just a state of mind and has no external existence.

@enlightened1

This is more easy on the eyes to read.

St. Thomas Aquinas SUMMA THEOLOGICA

Article 1. Whether the existence of God is self-evident?
Article 2. Whether it can be demonstrated that God exists?
Article 3. Whether God exists?

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1002.htm

@enlightened1

Indeed, you did not claim that ‘God does not exist” but you ask for proof over something which science cannot prove just like FAITH or TRUST.

The POINT of the list of Catholic priests-scientists is my refutation of your assertions that christians must be in “infantile delusion” which you woke up from! If we are in a delusional state, then these priests would have not brought forth the advancement of science LONG BEFORE the modern thinkers came.

Some scholars-atheists are still grappling with the truth that is why they do not crossover to being a theist. It requires FAITH!

what the… I’m having a hard time commenting using opera mini.

MGA PUTANGINA NYOG LAHAT! MGA MORONS!

I’m guessing that abuzalzal was molested by a priest during his childhood :)

To atheist

Do you thing God will unfold the truth to you? fools!

Even to the angels, He denied it!

(Job 4:18 [KJV])
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:

(Luke 10:21 [KJV])
In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

We cannot know God unless He calls us.

A very long time ago, there was a civilization whose government simply kills everyone who opposes them.

Eventually they (the government) realized that those they have killed simply comes back and begins to fight them once more.

So what they did was create a device that would capture the spirits of these enemies of the state, brain wash them and then send them here, to Earth.

So the spirit was to start all over again with no memories of his/her past every time he/she dies.

It did not took long before this government was destroyed by another more powerful race of beings from another galaxy. However, their brain washing operation was left running on auto pilot. Neighboring civilizations took the opportunity to also dump their unwanted citizens here. Murderers, rapists, psychopaths, liars, thieves, war criminals, etc.

Now you know why there are different races and so much hatred and violence on this planet.

all I can say is,

DREAM, BELIEVE, and SURVIVE!

I’m seeing a pattern here :

Cultists : ”No Proofs,empirical evidences… just a theory, you’re an idiot for believing that”….

Helllooooooooooo?????
Helllooooooooooo????
Helloooooooooooo????

I guess these cultists doesn’t understand what ”plausible” means lmao

anti-Rain wrote:

”you always ask for proof. but you’re the one contradicting yourself. prove first your beliefs. the one with the closed mind is yourself as you are already identifying that the book is already a fact.”

”you think you’re the one looking for evidence. you’re the one doing nothing. it shows how ignorant you are.”

Abu says : AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ansarap ulit-uliting basahin, EPIC comment brother! Respect

you always ask for proof. but you’re the one contradicting yourself. prove first your beliefs. the one with the closed mind is yourself as you are already identifying that the book is already a fact.

one example of how people viewed things before.
before we didn’t understand weather and considered it an act of god. then now we know what weather is and consider it something explainable .

you think you’re the one looking for evidence. you’re the one doing nothing. it shows how ignorant you are.

dun sa mga mejo confused eh try nyu manood ng angels and demons, sobrang ganda ng movie na yan

1st: There’s no contradiction in the bible,there’s only misinterpretation, misconception and mistranslation.

2nd: Thats’s why the bible warned about having to omit or to add something to its teachings would be a sinful act.

3rd: Not everyone is capable of understanding the true meaning of the bible because it was hidden in mystery and only the chosen can decipher it by the guidance of God and the help of the holy spirit.

4th: The bible also taught lots of scientific, geographic and historical facts about human evolution which the scientific community is just reaffirming or rediscovering nowadays.

5th: Mostly the reason for being an Agnostics and/or Atheists is the result from being misguided by different sects or religions, and that someone haven’t reach the truth or conviction that they’re searching for.

6th: CONCRETE EXAMPLE.. At the BibViz http://bibviz.com/how-many-gods-are-there-sab.html#at_pco=smlre-1.0&at_tot=4&at_ab=per-4&at_pos=0 , there’s a contradiction regarding how many god’s are there? and the answer is, there’s a lot of god’s being worship around the world like by the muslims, buddhism, hinduism etc. but among them, there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD which is the Father in heaven. so definitely its not contradiction, the bible only teaches the fact that there are other entities being called god by different group of people and that’s a historical fact. which in that case, makes the bible and its teaching, a very relevant and concrete piece of evidence for its authenticity.

7th: Now the question is, how relevant is the 3.8billion yrs evolution video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndIGM5xrS38 posted by abuzalzal to this matter?? does the scientific community have proof of their claims?? and the answer is NONE!!! not a single one… unlike the bible which tells the story of each regions and generations that it covers and leaves a lasting mark of evidence.

8th: yes, u read it right. a lasting mark of evidence. why? because the Philippines is one of the regions which have been prophecised..

Isaiah 24:15
New International Version (NIV)
15 Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord;
exalt the name of the Lord, the God of Israel,
in the islands of the sea.

Isaiah 43:5-6
New International Version (NIV)
5 Do not be afraid, for I am with you;
I will bring your children from the east
and gather you from the west.
6 I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’
and to the south, ‘Do not hold them back.’
Bring my sons from afar
and my daughters from the ends of the earth—

here’s the rest.. happy reading..

http://torch-of-salvation.blogspot.com/2011/06/ang-sugo-ng-diyos-sa-mga-huling-araw.html

When you present solid empirical evidences, you study and experiment how a thing develops. Just like the DNA which is made up of a double helix structure and the pairing of nucleotude subunits because it has been studied by Watson and Crick. It is a good example of a theory backed up with solid scientific evidence. But a “simple water organisms evolve into a complex organism” belief, where is the proof in that?

To abujakol and voltez5, I see progress in you guys. In this catholic/christian dominated country, its hard to find people who can think freely. Most filipinos are slaves of preconceived ideas taught by religions.

LOGICAL thinker? Or someone who is openminded that he’ll believe in ANYTHING except religion? Wacko me? Hahha. Look who get’s trump with facts rather than pre-conceived notions. Ok since you are LOGICAL THINKERS kuno, then how come you abuzalzal CAN’T even back up with solid empirical scientific evidence that “water organism can transform into a Paris Hilton” belief of yours? So logically, if a thing evolves, the former disappears. Yet why are there still monkeys, amoebas, planktons around? Since humans evolve from these tiny creatures, they should have been non-existent already. Logic dictates you need to present scientific proof because logically that is what you believe.

Wow. When nothing else to hammer on, it all goes back to the priest’s sex scandals. But I guess the sex scandals hounding the Boys Scout of America, Penn State American Football and some other religious sects wouldn’t matter for the “thinkers”.

IF a group of atheists scientists working at a reputable organization abused teen boys, should we therefore conclude that scientists are abusive as per the “LOGIC” of these “thinkers” who always demean the whole of the Catholic Church by the horrific acts of some?

@abuzalzal

Basically you are just spouting off your opinion. If you want to dispute the Bible, do it in a scientific away – through research from credible scholars and not from urban legends.

So what is that TOOL and TECHNOLOGY that will demonstrate that we came from a water-borne organism? Can you duplicate what happened millions of years ago and present it then as SOLID SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE?

the earth was flat until magellan circumnavigate it.

CHRISTIANITY is a HUUUUUGE LIE

The God-Son-Virgin Birth-12 Apostles thingy existed many many years even before the Hebrew God that was mentioned in the Bible , Nauna po ang story ni Horus (Egypt) at Mithras (Persia) bago si Jesus (Israel)…hence, isa pong ”rip-off/blatant copy” or Pirated yung istorya ng Kristianismo…Christianity is a CRAZY fairytale concept made to control/influence and manipulate people. Ever wonder kung bakit may 10 percent ikapo at offerings (which doesn’t make any effing sense?)

The VATICAN Officials are the world’s biggest crooks or kawatans, they are the most corrupt people in the world wolf in sheep’s clothing ika nga, countless scandals have been recorded throughout history, some are well-documented, some were dismissed/covered-up like a corpse hidden under the basement.

All of the Stories in the Bible are flat out ridiculous and ill-paced, no different from Greek mythology or other cannabis-inspired fairytale stories like Joseph Smith (Mormonism) or L . Ron Hubbard’s Scientology. Man was NEVER conceived out of magic just like what was depicted in Exodus, God NEVER created the universe.We simply came from a water-born organism evolved into a more complex animal.

May I ask who do they get their info from to drive this Jesus-is-fiction crap? If you want HISTORY, you go to the real deal: academics and history scholars.

Basing from HISTORICAL, NON-christian resources, a man named Jesus has been mentioned by the ff:

Indeed the most remarkable reference to Jesus outside the Bible can be found in the writings of Josephus, a first century JEWISH HISTORIAN

“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he wrought surprising feats. He was the Christ. When Pilate condemned him to be crucified, those who had come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared, restored to life. And the tribe of Christians has not disappeared.”

– Josephus, Antiquities 18.63-64, cited in Yamauchi, “Jesus Outside the New Testament”, 212.

Tacitus, writing around A.D. 116 in his Annals 15.44 – probably the most important reference to Jesus outside the New Testament. Reporting on Emperor Nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed Rome in A.D. 64, the Roman historian Tacitus wrote:

“Nero fastened the guilt . . . on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. CHRISTUS, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”

Next important source of historical evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan’s advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:

“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to CHRIST, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food–but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.{10}
– Pliny, Letters, transl. by William Melmoth, rev. by W.M.L. Hutchinson (Cambridge: Harvard Univ. Press, 1935), vol. II, X:96, cited in Habermas, The Historical Jesus, 199.

Even in the Babylonian Talmud, a collection of Jewish rabbinical writings compiled between approximately A.D. 70-500, there were a few clear references to Jesus:

“On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald . . . cried, “He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy.”

– The Babylonian Talmud, transl. by I. Epstein (London: Soncino, 1935), vol. III, Sanhedrin 43a, 281, cited in Habermas, The Historical Jesus, 203.

And please to the Bible-is-just-fairytalebook smarter than thou joes, why don’t you contradict the TRUE historians and scholars which acknowledges its authencity. Historical details are found in the Gospels and the other books of the New Testament. These include numerous mentions of secular rulers and leaders (Caesar Augustus, Pontius Pilate, Herod, Felix, Archelaus, Agrippa, Gallio), as well as Jewish leaders (Caiaphas, Ananias)—the sort of names unlikely to be used inaccurately or even to show up in a “myth.”

Don’t focus too much on the details, else you’ll miss the big picture.

It’s like students complaining too much on the typo errors and on the little details they doubt on a text book written by a professor of a subject in college. You think, how can you rely on learning from school and these people who even commit typo or grammatical errors? After graduating and began to have jobs, they realized it’s not the textbooks they mainly gained knowledge and skills from, but from the experience and training they underwent during college that built their characters and confidence. Then you remember how that single small error on the textbook EVEN made you doubt the whole idea of education. :)

mapagpaimbabaw! nagbabasa ka ng bible? bakit mangmang ka pa din? alam mo sabi ng bible sa katulad mong nagmamarunong at nagaaring ganap at nagmamatuwid sa sarili at sa paningin ng tao?

Luke 16:15 Kayo’ng nangagaaring-ganap sa inyong sarili sa paningin ng mga tao; datapuwa’t nakikilala ng Dios ang inyong mga puso;

Psalm 14:1 Ang mangmang ay nagsabi sa kaniyang puso, walang Dios: sila’y nangapapahamak, sila’y nagsigawa ng kasuklamsuklam na mga gawa; walang gumagawa ng mabuti

John 8:47 Ang sa Dios ay nakikinig ng mga salita ng Dios: dahil dito’y hindi ninyo dinirinig, sapagka’t kayo’y hindi sa Dios.

John 8:44 Kayo’y sa inyong amang diablo, at ang mga nais ng inyong ama ang ibig ninyong gawin. Siya’y isang mamamatay-tao buhat pa nang una, at hindi nananatili sa katotohanan, sapagka’t walang katotohanan sa kaniya. Pagka nagsasalita siya ng kasinungalingan, ay nagsasalita siya ng sa ganang kaniya: sapagka’t siya’y isang sinungaling, at ama nito.